Bluewolf

I am the same mate, not happy with the situation and just as bored, Or a better word would be 'frustrated' with the total lack of accountability on this matter... I don't know how on one hand you can hope to sweep away what's happened by saying that he feels the vast majority of the public would want us to focus on other things when he is completely ignoring the fact that a large proportion of that very same public are clearly not happy with what's happened and are in fact focused on the Cummings debacle... He is just picking and choosing any part of it he wants to suit himself.. It's as see through as a pint glass and people like Gove having a chuckle about what his driving skills are like is just a fucking insult to anyone with even a modicum of brains... I feel for all those people that couldn't be with loved ones when they died or were ill or even go to their funerals, or were stuck in the same house as the rest of the family with or without symptoms not being able to visit anyone even though some considered and thought out travel might have given them more options.... The rules were clear, STAY HOME Unlike you mate I do think it will be forgotten eventually and that's how they survive, It will get pushed further and further back until it just becomes a regrettable moment of embarrassment with no consequences... What's worse is the more defiant they are and all the while not being held accountable for their actions the more they feel like they are untouchable no matter how they behave. I really do hope people don't forget but sadly think that there will be plenty of other distractions going on in the future on to help put it firmly in the past..

Sadly this is one of the worst things of all and was always going to be part of the plan... Stick to his guns no matter what, don't give anything away, keep saying let's move on, not budging on his position or anything, basically wearing us down and because he is not being held truly accountable all he has to do is ride that wave of discontent until he hits the beach again.. That's how they hold on to what they have and why things will never change and also why I despise Politics and Politicians...

He adds that he does understand people's feelings and why there is "such indignation about the pain of the whole business of lockdown". But Johnson says the public wants politicians to "focus on them and their needs rather than a political ding dong". One of them public needs was asking for Cummings to step down but I don't see Johnson giving that much focus....

Keeps repeating 'time to move on' over and over and also claims he has seen evidence that things said and printed about Cummings were false but does not wish to hand them over... He won't back down now he is in too deep but I don't believe that he should be able to suppress information.. He is the worst at being held accountable for his actions and I don't get how it's allowed to continue, Simply isn't good enough... I think the truth is he would implode without Cummings there so is holding on for dear life in case it exposes him even more...

Do I have to face the wall as well???

Yea, both the arm punishment showing the brutality and the loss of the cows showing the fragility of the whole system is very evident... Even with the Class issues they have also managed to throw in a kind of futuristic spin on 'Murder on the Orient Express' with all the other goings on so that in itself will be interesting...

What did you think of the second one??

His thoughts on it... ‘It’s a little bit of a frenzy, and I am uncomfortable with that,’ he said. ‘If our goal is to change the underlying factors, I am not sure that this young woman having her life completely torn apart serves that goal.’ He is right of course but does make you wonder what the turn of events might have been had he not been filming, and by that I mean would she have been a bit calmer?? because she seemed to start getting over emotional as soon as he pulled his phone out but on the flipside would the over emotion and hysterics have continued with him getting the shitty end of the stick and no evidence to the contrary?? You have to wonder now if what has happened to her will now strengthen her views on Black people in a negative way or would she genuinely take a time out to reflect on her over reaction and learn something from it??

No humour intended... I am well aware of the many atrocities that have been carried out in the name of the British Empire over the years but if even one member of our Government can't even apologise for taking a road trip during lockdown then you have zero chance of getting anything else for far worse...

This woman has got sacked over this incident.... https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/27/investment-banker-fired-racist-video-shouting-black-man-12763144/

Unfortunately the Aussie 'Sorry Day' does clash with our 'No Regrets' day so bit unlucky there me old cobbers…

Me neither but will assume that it's based on that... It's good so far

Watched both... Didn't realise that there were only 2 so far.. Interesting, not what I thought it might be so will keep watching.. Didn't they make a film called Snow Piercer a few years back??

Gove proving he really is the Mr Bean of politics...

Watching it now..

Sorry to hear that mate...

Good point...

You must remember these days then @CaaC (John)… The lowest form of accommodation in Victorian England was a place where you could for the price of a penny, dangle over a piece of rope for the night... I bet there used to be many of your tavern going nights where you ended up in places like this rather than going home to the rolling pin isn't that right mate..

I put something up in the Covid thread so if you want to move it to here then please do mate..

10 years ago maybe...

So what do we make of the Cummings showing then?? Seems as though they have gone down a couple of routes to hedge their bets on this one... First thing was to try and distance Johnson from the whole debacle by stating that he never informed the PM of his trip to Durham even though the PM has known about it for some time only mentioning it after it leaked but not a murmer before.. The second was going for the sympathy vote, Being threatened, home exposed, family in danger needing to get away to somewhere safer etc and trying to heavily play on the reasonable thing to do under the circumstances and hope everyone calms down now they know the facts of the matter... For the most part it will probably dampen a few fires while they get all those waywards on board to give it their seal of approval and hope that the matter will be dropped.... Tough going for a bloke who is standing his ground against well, pretty much everyone that asked him a question today but still not decent enough to admit that he was wrong to do it because doing that would have left him no choice but to step down.. And watching him trying to explain away that drive to the castle was painful, doing it to test his eyes my arse.. that was poor, also not checking if he was ok to go there in the first place but checking if it was ok to return?? Clearly uncomfortable during some points raised and because of the one sided tsunami of questions talking about his responsibilities and the message it sends out etc they may be able to go down the 'victim of the media circus' route.... Be interesting to see which side of the fence people fall on now after that or if it will calm things down or not.. Also whoever it was making that fucking racket at the beginning in a sad attempt to interrupt the whole thing needs a smack in the mouth...

Hmmmm… Common sense you say, can't wait for that

Seems as though there are a lot of places that have been flooded with people... not many signs of distancing going on in any of the pictures of beaches etc... It's like people have just decided to call it a day on the isolation front... Ruislip Lido...

All the best mate...

It's coming across as a "do as we say, not as we do" type situation and a very arrogant stance especially from Cummings who thinks if he just keeps brushing it off as inconsequential because what other people think does not matter to him then everyone will get bored of asking him questions and the whole sorry saga will go away... It was equally laughable and insulting that he kept telling the media outside his house to make sure they are social distancing... Personally I don't give a fuck about him getting heckled outside his house because in all honesty any other time people and the media are asking questions they are either being ignored or dismissed out of hand so if that's the only way people can make it clear how they feel about it then so be it... As you say he has brought this on himself with his whole attitude toward it...