Mpache Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Joint 21. Marcelo Salas - Chile - 3 points Sometimes regarded as Chile's best ever player along with Ivan Zamorano, Marcelo Salas was a striker who altered his career between Europe and South America. Particularly in Europe, he was known for his stint at Lazio. A technical and strong forward. He is from the chilly town of Temuco which is more down south of Santiago. He also did youths at the club he owns today in Deportes Temuco, but his professional debut was at Universidad de Chile where he scored 50 goals in 77 appearances. He's also sometimes idolized at River Plate for his time there, but perhaps not as much compared to U de Chile and Lazio. Notable Former Teammates Ivan Zamorano (Chile) Maxi Lopez (River Plate) Pavel Nedved (Lazio) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Salas and Zamorano were great but I still think Alexis Sanchez is the best Chilean player of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Carnivore Chris said: Juan Arango - Was very underrated at Mallorca. Good player to watch and probably the best Venezuelan player I can remember seeing. Arango was great but there's an argument between him, Stalin Rivas and even Salomon Rondon for best Venezuelan ever. The problem with Rivas was he played in a rough time for Venezuela so he couldn't really impact his team too much. Arango was well after that transition and had a lot more luxury around him. Same with Rondon really, but I think he also needs to be in the shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 The best South Americans ever Argentina: Diego Maradona/Lionel Messi Brazil: Pele/Garrincha Uruguay: Obdulio Varela/Luis Suarez Peru: Teofilo Cubillas/Hector Chumpitaz Chile: Ivan Zamorano/Alexis Sanchez/Arturo Vidal/Marcelo Salas Paraguay: Jose Luis Chilavert/Roque Santa Cruz Bolivia: Victor Ugarte/Erwin Sanchez Venezuela: Stalin Rivas/Juan Arango/Salomon Rondon Colombia: Pibe Valderamma/Faustino Asprilla/James Rodriguez Ecuador: Alex Aguinaga/Antonio Valencia/Agustin Delgado Let's see how many of them make this list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Inti Brian said: I think just you did mate. You put him in the middle which is 3 points. Nice one, where abouts did you meet him? They were at the hotel I was staying at during our CL tie against them in 2008. The only one that would take the time to greet and sign autographs. Literally the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted February 13, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 13, 2020 Salas and Zamorano. Iconic partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Spike and beer. Classic partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 hours ago, Inti Brian said: The best South Americans ever Argentina: Diego Maradona/Lionel Messi Brazil: Pele/Garrincha Uruguay: Obdulio Varela/Luis Suarez Peru: Teofilo Cubillas/Hector Chumpitaz Chile: Ivan Zamorano/Alexis Sanchez/Arturo Vidal/Marcelo Salas Paraguay: Jose Luis Chilavert/Roque Santa Cruz Bolivia: Victor Ugarte/Erwin Sanchez Venezuela: Stalin Rivas/Juan Arango/Salomon Rondon Colombia: Pibe Valderamma/Faustino Asprilla/James Rodriguez Ecuador: Alex Aguinaga/Antonio Valencia/Agustin Delgado Let's see how many of them make this list... Oh I think that Nudge isn't going to be too happy with you excluding Claudio Pizarro for Peru. Surely Nobby Solano must also be in with a shout for them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, Michael said: Oh I think that Nudge isn't going to be too happy with you excluding Claudio Pizarro for Peru. Surely Nobby Solano must also be in with a shout for them as well. Nobby isn't even in our top 5 mate. Claudio Pizarro is closer to that shout though and could perhaps be in discussion, but yeah they don't compare to the players we had in the 1970's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Joint 21. Arturo Vidal - Chile - 3 points A Chilean after another. Arturo Vidal is along with Sanchez, the best Chilean of recent times. A complete midfielder of the classiest type. Good defensively, good going forward and a decent goalscorer. However, he does make the odd poisonous comment and we all know how much of a prick he can be, but there's no denying he was a top player in his prime. Started his career at Colo-Colo, probably the biggest club in his home country. He played for 2 years there before making the jump to Bayer Leverkusen. Things only went uphill from there. Juventus, Bayern and Barcelona. An extremely prestigious career. He also helped lead Chile to their first 2 Copa America's in their history. In the end, his presence poisoned the dressing room and Chile came crashing down, but he's appreciated for what he's achieved for his nation and his strong performances prior to 2017 will never be forgotten. Bit of a fun fact: Arturo Vidal knocked out Peruvian side Coronel Bolognesi in the 2006 Copa Sudamericana. The manager of Bolognesi was Jorge Sampaoli. The rest is history. Honours Notable Former Teammates Alexis Sanchez (Colo Colo and Chile) Thomas Muller (Bayern Munich) Lionel Messi (FC Barcelona) Andrea Pirlo (Juventus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 30. Ezequiel Lavezzi 29. Alisson Becker 28. Roberto Carlos 27. Paolo Guerrero 26. Alfredo Di Stefano 25. Diego Godin 24. Naldo 23. Romario 22. Juninho 21. Diego Lugano 20. Marcelo Salas 19. Arturo Vidal Just keeping track of the list so I don't repeat players. That's how its going so far. 30-22 are joint. 21-19 are also joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Joint 21. Lucas Leiva - Brazil - 3 points Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Is it a Gaucho? Surprisingly not the third option. Lucas Leiva despite looking like a clear gaucho, is actually from Mato Grosso do Sul. He even started at Gremio, which is from Porto Alegre. He is most known for his time at Liverpool however. Today he is currently at Lazio in Serie A. As mentioned, he started at Gremio despite not actually being a gaucho. While in Brazil, he won the best player in the league award and moved to Liverpool in 2007 for which he would stay at merseyside for 10 years. Honours Notable Former Teammates Luis Suarez (Liverpool) Felipe Caicedo (Lazio) Neymar (Brazil) Cassio (Gremio) Lucio (Gremio) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Fernando Torres should be on his notable former teammates, fuck Suarez. Hopefully he wins the Serie A this season, even though I think the club he plays for is a horrible horrible club with awful fascist fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Dr. Gonzo said: Fernando Torres should be on his notable former teammates, fuck Suarez. Hopefully he wins the Serie A this season, even though I think the club he plays for is a horrible horrible club with awful fascist fans. More importantly I forgot Gerrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Inti Brian said: More importantly I forgot Gerrard Yeah so did I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted February 18, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 18, 2020 Lucas being there surprises me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Stan said: Lucas being there surprises me. He's my second favourite South American player, so he got 3 points just from that. Tbf, if you're a Liverpool fan Lucas is an easy player to love. He came in and was sort of slated by almost everybody... and 10 years on after that moment, he left us as a legend (or maybe a cult hero). He put in so many great years of service for us and played with a lot of heart. And he was our first Brazilian, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Joint 21. Diego Forlan - Uruguay - 3 points One of the best Uruguayan players in the 21st century. He alongside Recoba was a bit of light during a rough time in Uruguayan football. He also lasted into the new generation consisting of Edinson Cavani and Luis Suarez. With them he managed to finish 4th in the 2010 World Cup and win the 2011 Copa America. Had a bad stint at Manchester United but is more recognized for his achievements with Atletico Madrid. He was taken off Danubio's hands by Independiente. He is also an Independiente fan in Argentina and doesn't pick between Boca or River. He scored 37 goals for them before going to Europe to play for Manchester United. Honours Former Notable Teammates Luis Suarez (Uruguay) Alvaro Recoba (Uruguay) Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United) Juan Roman Riquelme (Villareal) Esteban Cambiasso (Independiente) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 18/02/2020 at 12:58, Dr. Gonzo said: Fernando Torres should be on his notable former teammates, fuck Suarez. Hopefully he wins the Serie A this season, even though I think the club he plays for is a horrible horrible club with awful fascist fans. Nothing wrong with facism It just hasn't been done propely yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Spike said: Nothing wrong with facism It just hasn't been done propely yet. You could probably make a decent argument that no sort of authoritarian rule has been done properly. But it's probably because of human nature that authoritarian governments end up being pretty shit - because humans are easily corrupted by power. Either way, forcible suppression of political opposition is a key aspect of fascism - and that in itself makes it pretty shit, regardless of whether or not "it's been done properly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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