Guest Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I would actually take Coutinho over Hazard too, but statistics mean fuck all. I think Coutinho has more about his game than Hazard not because he has a better outside the box shot ratio. That's a stupid thing to look at when judging a player. I like you madlad, but you've had a mare here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Cicero said: Christ, I almost want Real to buy Hazard and make him their #10 just to prove my point Both great players mate and there’s really not much in it. I just think Coutinho edges it because he has slightly more to his game and is more consistent. Hazard drifts in and out of seasons so much it’s criminal and you’ve said that yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Barkely's stock has risen 10x since joining and will continue to rise with every shit attacking performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Blue said: I would actually take Coutinho over Hazard too, but statistics mean fuck all. I think Coutinho has more about his game than Hazard not because he has a better outside the box shot ratio. That's a stupid thing to look at when judging a player. I like you madlad, but you've had a mare here. Of course they do But Madlad likes his stats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura 319 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: Christ, I almost want Real to buy Hazard and make him their #10 just to prove my point I think they will, if James doesnt want to come back from loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura 319 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: Christ, I almost want Real to buy Hazard and make him their #10 just to prove my point I think they will, if James doesnt want to come back from loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura 319 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: Christ, I almost want Real to buy Hazard and make him their #10 just to prove my point I think they will, if James doesnt want to come back from loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Asura said: I dont know why, you should ask @SirBalon I think Hazard is a better dribbler (the tight spaces aspect you mentioned) also believe he is a better passer, better in winning balls. Im not sure what you meant by versatility but I will give Coutinho the long range shooting, he is definitely better than hazard there It’s all very subjective to be honest but I doubt any team would say no to either of them. I think both offer the same type of outcome or better said, they both try to deliver the same thing. Both are creative and both have good vision. Hazard for me is better in the shorter quick passing game and Coutinho is a more tempered cultured player. But both could offer top quality to any side in the world. An argument as to who is better is just mental for me... I wouldn’t say no to either and would be happy with either too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 As for the game... First League Cup game I’ve watched in 4 years properly and only because it was against Chelsea and had nothing to do tonight. The tournament is crap and couldn’t care less what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Blue said: I would actually take Coutinho over Hazard too, but statistics mean fuck all. I think Coutinho has more about his game than Hazard not because he has a better outside the box shot ratio. That's a stupid thing to look at when judging a player. I like you madlad, but you've had a mare here. It wasn’t me who brought up the ‘outside the box’ thing though? I was just replying to someone who did? All ive said is that I think Coutinho is the better all round player and you’ve agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Bluewolf said: Of course they do But Madlad likes his stats.... Messi's stats this season are nearly equal to Salah. Stats don't have logic. Player judgement does though. We're not robots ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura 319 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Both great players mate and there’s really not much in it. I just think Coutinho edges it because he has slightly more to his game and is more consistent. Hazard drifts in and out of seasons so much it’s criminal and you’ve said that yourself. But you werent saying "coutinho edges" instead you said "he pisses all over him" earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Sums up the performance on the pitch tonight when Hazard V Coutinho is clogging up the thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Both great players mate and there’s really not much in it. I just think Coutinho edges it because he has slightly more to his game and is more consistent. Hazard drifts in and out of seasons so much it’s criminal and you’ve said that yourself. I did until @carefreeluke mentioned that we rely on him more so than we should. So much so that when he is marked out of the game, there is no one in our side capable of influencing a game the way he can. Hence him getting that reputation. Hazard can't ever be under 100% because if he is, we are screwed. Like I said, he goes to Real and is playing alongside Isco, Asensio, Bale, Kroos, Modric vs Oscar, Willian, Drinkwater, etc, maybe you'll see what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: Of course they do But Madlad likes his stats.... I don’t like yours cos they are devastating to my case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, LFCMadLad said: I don’t like yours cos they are devastating to my case Forget stats mate... Watch football be honest and tell me what you think. I care more about that than stats in football. Someone just pointed out that Salah has similar stats to Messi this season and that tells you everything you need to know about statistics. This ain’t basketball or the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Asura said: But you werent saying "coutinho edges" instead you said "he pisses all over him" earlier Ok I exaggerated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SirBalon said: Forget stats mate... Watch football be honest and tell me what you think. I care more about that than stats in football. Someone just pointed out that Salah has similar stats to Messi this season and that tells you everything you need to know about statistics. This ain’t basketball or the NFL. Telling him to forget Stats mate is like asking you to keep a reply down to one line per post... just ain't gonna happen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Forget stats mate... Watch football be honest and tell me what you think. I care more about that than stats in football. Someone just pointed out that Salah has similar stats to Messi this season and that tells you everything you need to know about statistics. This ain’t basketball or the NFL. It tells me Messi is the Argentinian Salah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Seven 9 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, SirBalon said: It’s all very subjective to be honest but I doubt any team would say no to either of them. I think both offer the same type of outcome or better said, they both try to deliver the same thing. Both are creative and both have good vision. Hazard for me is better in the shorter quick passing game and Coutinho is a more tempered cultured player. But both could offer top quality to any side in the world. An argument as to who is better is just mental for me... I wouldn’t say no to either and would be happy with either too. Is this going to be the new Gerrard vs. Lampard debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Bluewolf said: Telling him to forget Stats mate is like asking you to keep a replay down to one line per post... just ain't gonna happen.... Fuck you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura 319 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Gary Seven said: Is this going to be the new Gerrard vs. Lampard debate? yes sir, you can throw our very own Jack Wilshere to make it a completely new gerrard vd lampard vs scholes debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Hope Barkely is fit enough to start over Cesc. Zappacosta over Moses for sure. Christ almighty, it's either one player or another that needs dropping. Haven't had a great 'team' performance since United at home. Courtois and our back 3 the only ones that can hold their head up high. Dave still undefeated wearing the armband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Seven 9 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, Asura said: Truth be told I was very excited about Xhaka when he first joined, I read somewhere that he was a great midfielder in Germany who has the leader capabilities with aggression, I thought he would be solid in the middle like Vieira. Never rated chambers though, always looks a liability who cant be trusted at the back. I saw him play a fair few times at Monchengladbach and he was excellent. I was excited to get him too. He was a tough, aggressive (maybe too aggressive to the point of being undisciplined) deep-lying playmaker. He's had some good performances for Arsenal, but just not consistently. He seems unfocused much of the time. Hopefully he can overcome it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura 319 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Cicero said: Hope Barkely is fit enough to start over Cesc. Zappacosta over Moses for sure. Christ almighty, it's either one player or another that needs dropping. Haven't had a great 'team' performance since United at home. Sad to see you counting great performances against small teams/managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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