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A lot of drivers getting their times deleted in FP3 for exceeding track limits. 

A very nicely mixed field so far; Verstappen splitting the two Ferraris with just a tenths of a second behind Leclerc in P1, Vettel with the same gap just behind Max, Bottas a few tenths behind them in P4. Hamilton would have been there but got his time deleted. Biggest surprise so far is Magnussen, P5 and only 0,5s behind the leader :o 

We could be in for an epic weekend!

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Mercedes with all sorts of problems here. Bottas aborted his first lap, Hamilton has had to go again after catching traffic on his first lap.

Vettel out of the car. Will start last/from the pit lane.

Massive chance here for some of the midfield teams to get in the top six.

Hamilton goes 3rd now but still 0.6s off Leclerc.

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Out in Q2: Giovinazzi, Magnussen, Ricciardo, Kvyat, Stroll.

Hulkenberg is 0.033s faster than his team mate. Hulkenberg 8th, Ricciardo 13th.

Alfa, Haas, McLaren, Racing Point and Renault all have one driver into Q3 to join Leclerc, Mercedes pair and Red Bull pair.

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Technical issues also for Max :| hopefully nothing too serious but the engine didn't sound well at all... 

Kimi's having a great race weekend so far. 

Unbelievable how close it is in midfield. Ricciardo out but only 0.04s slower than his teammate in P8

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1 minute ago, nudge said:

Ferrari manage to screw up even on those rare occasions where they have the advantage xD pathetic. 

Seriously, they need to change something. A huge staff overhaul or something. They want to be the best, but they're the biggest clowns of the grid right now. 

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Hamilton scores the open goal. Gasly was within a tenth of Max but had his lap time deleted.

Bottas nowhere near Lewis, 3-4 tenths off consistently.

Kimi with a brilliant 5th. As close to the top 4 as he is to 6th and below.

Ferrari though :what: what can you even say?

Bottas and Max have just parked the wrong way round xD.

Bring on the rain tomorrow please.

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8 minutes ago, Tommy said:

Seriously, they need to change something. A huge staff overhaul or something. They want to be the best, but they're the biggest clowns of the grid right now. 

Seems like they need to change quite a lot... Chaos team. 

Seb with turbo issues, Charles with fuel issues. So two different problems, weird to lose both cars like that during the qualifying. 

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Ferrari are still consistently designing the second best car, so the design departments for both chassis and engine are doing a good job, and yes they have amongst the best resources and most money so this should be the case anyway but at least they're actually delivering what they should be.

Aside from that they just seem to have a broad range of niggly problems and it isn't clear where the fault really lies most of the time. This week its reliability so look at the manufacturing department or the mechanics at the track? Next week it'll be back to poor strategy decisions, after that it'll be incorrect simulation data or putting too much faith in a weather forecast or simple driver error.

Going off the past few years you expect that Binotto has this year and next year and if he doesn't deliver a championship they'll try someone else. It's the worst thing they can do because someone needs to be left to comb through the entire organisation and ramp up the standards to where the likes of Mercedes would have them.

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35 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

Ferrari are still consistently designing the second best car, so the design departments for both chassis and engine are doing a good job, and yes they have amongst the best resources and most money so this should be the case anyway but at least they're actually delivering what they should be.

Aside from that they just seem to have a broad range of niggly problems and it isn't clear where the fault really lies most of the time. This week its reliability so look at the manufacturing department or the mechanics at the track? Next week it'll be back to poor strategy decisions, after that it'll be incorrect simulation data or putting too much faith in a weather forecast or simple driver error.

Going off the past few years you expect that Binotto has this year and next year and if he doesn't deliver a championship they'll try someone else. It's the worst thing they can do because someone needs to be left to comb through the entire organisation and ramp up the standards to where the likes of Mercedes would have them.

The way I see it, the core of Ferrari's issues is of organisational nature, especially at the upper management level. The overall strategy, trackside operations and decision making have been atrocious and that's what they need to address first, in my opinion. They have the resources and the people to build a good car, yet can't get it functioning properly - a typical Ferrari problem and has been for years. 

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