Dr. Gonzo

Parliament blocked a no deal in a non-binding vote that doesn't really have any impact on what will actually happen. That vote doesn't mean there won't be no deal if there's no alternative deal with the EU in place.

I think Aspas was unfortunate because he was signed right when Sturridge had that season where he stayed healthy all season and was class. And of course Suarez was ahead of him. Things might have turned out differently had he had more minutes on the pitch in England. Other than his one famously shite corner though, I don’t think he was a complete embarrassment. He may not have ever been close to the player from Celta Vigo we signed or the player he is now (and I really do think that was down to him getting mostly a few minutes here and there) - but he’s a player that always gave 100% on the pitch for us. Even if you’re shite, if you’re running your bollocks off for us every time you’re on the pitch for us, you’re better than a lot of the truly shite players we’ve had. Moreno’s a weird one. His debut is arguably his best match for us, he started really brightly for us... and then faded spectacularly. I would say he’s not bad as a backup, but I just don’t think it’s true. We’re a side that’s had injury issues at the fullback position and I absolutely dread the thought of him playing for us ever again. I know La Liga and the prem have different styles, but I still think Moreno is nowhere near good enough to play for Barca. He’s Salif Diao level quality, which is to say he’s part of that trio - Diao, Konchesky, Moreno - the three worst players I’ve ever seen at Liverpool

There's a rumour going round that Alberto Moreno is about to sign for Barca on a 2 year deal. Hilarious if true, nowhere near good enough to play for Barca. He's got to be one of the worst fullbacks in England.

Unbelievable...

We've banned some racist cunt from Anfield for life after he's racially abused other fans in the stands of that charity match.

You had to pay extra to make up for his "back injury" caused by his "great sadness"

How bad a recession will be post-Brexit depends on what outcome comes out; a no deal would be particularly bad with WTO tariffs/non-tariff barriers. There’s a lot of debate as to what a post-Brexit recession will be like and how deep of a recession it would be. But betting on no Brexit and a stock bump at this point sounds weirdly optimistic, imo

I wouldn’t, but maybe - but it’s really hard to predict how Brexit will go and I think the delay makes it even harder to predict. For the first deadline to be met and with a No Brexit there’s a lot of political stagnation and stalemate that needs to be sorted out... in not that much time. And for the second delayed deadline, where there would be a cleaner break from the EU, we need to get a new deal in that both the EU and our MPs can agree on - and that’s been a nightmare for 2 years. It’s basically making a bet on competence politically. It might happen, you never know - but I doubt it

This is partially why I want a no deal to go through. Maybe a big long recession would teach people there’s consequences to the votes they make. Probably not though, because they’ll just be fed more horseshit and blame everyone else for their problems.

They’ve got a right to try to get the most money from the sale, but I think that’ll actually prevent people from trying to buy him.

Lol Barca want to sell their backup keeper for 45-50m. So they signed him for 13m, player him for about 25 matches in 3 years, and are now telling us he’s worth about 4 times what they paid for him

So do you suggest we pay our workers like Indonesian sweatshop workers? Probably. I actually did leave so I could make as much money as I could for 10-15 years before I come back. And to be honest, if there’s a no deal Brexit I’ll probably be able to buy a pretty nice house in London and I’ll probably do that and rent it out until I come back

Sterling is just a money grabber, Owen is an irredeemable cunt.

It’s an absolute joke he’s a “club ambassador” we should cut all ties with the collosal dickhead

Idk why they bring Owen to these matches. He’s not a Liverpool legend, he’s a twat, and he’s fucking hated by our fans.

Hahaha that first sentence

I meant to write our

Happy days! Moreno is on the cusp of a move to join Lucas at Lazio. Don't tell Lazio that they're not getting anyone near as quality as Lucas... but fuck me, I'm so happy he's going to be gone.

Brexit postponed until May 22nd if we MPs approve May's deal, or until April 12 if not.

I wouldn’t be surprised if plenty on the continent think the Brexiteers have been extreme personality wise and culturally. We’ve got Barnier bemoaning the lack of realism on our part and complaining about how May’s government seems to want the EU to be able to solve domestic political issues (I wish there were recordings of the negotiations, because I want to know what was said). After 2 years of dealing with clueless morons like David Davis & having Farage say things like he can’t wait to exercise his veto vote, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that a number of people in the EU have developed a more extreme view in taking that harder line with the UK. I agree with you and that MEP from the land of waffles and chocolate though

@Harvsky on the one hand I see what you're saying, and perhaps yes the EU is using this clumsy tactic to keep us holding out for a delay that leads to a second referendum or general election that ultimately leads to Article 50 being withdrawn or something. On the other hand, this may be the EU sticking the knife in and believing (or knowing) that they will weather the No Deal recession better than Britain and ultimately dealing with the UK post-Brexit, may be easier once everything settles down and there is more public consensus in the UK as to what the fuck the country's Brexit plans might be. I have a hard time believing the EU will allow the 9 month extension to the Article 50 that May's cabinet seems to anticipate them getting - because as mentioned on here earlier, the EU doesn't want the UK using it's power to veto to obstruct the EU's 7 year budget as a way to blackmail the EU into better terms for the UK leaving... when the UK is supposed to be out of the EU in a week. That's why most EU leaders are saying they'll agree to a technical extension, but it'll be short term and it requires parliament passing the May deal.

@Harvsky… I did say it was just 1 MP saying that, I think that indicates that it's of questionable credibility & not a true reflection of what a country or a government believes It's a failing of our Brexit negotiations to not make a harder push for being in the EEA. It's the best option for leaving the EU imo, it's better than the Swiss model with EFTA because that model involves too many domestic referendums for my liking, it's certainly better than May's deal, and is obviously better than a No Deal Brexit. I disagree with the notion that we should have used the threat of a No Deal earlier on in negotiations as leverage. "I will hurt you, but also hurt myself much harder, unless you concede some favourable terms to me" is not a great negotiation strategy - and No Deal is something the EU has obviously considered very early on in negotiations; I don't think they've been unaware there is a deadline looming and if a deal isn't agreed there will be a hard Brexit that will obviously affect them - a No Deal is bad for both sides and was always a risk of what could happen when we leave the EU. But using the threat of No Deal to try to cherry pick the good aspects of being in the EU and not being in the EU would also just serve as a blueprint for Euroskeptic populists around Europe - threaten self-harm and the EU will cave and the EU will dissolve. I think in the grand scheme of things, the EU would rather take the short term hit along with the UK (a No Deal will send ripples through global marks as well) and rebuild from that than face a potential existential threat. Using that threat as leverage in negotiations to me just seems belligerent. It's better to start negotiations on areas of common ground - here that common ground is that a No Deal has negative economic effects on the UK and the EU and both parties would benefit from avoiding that. Unfortunately, the next best option to remaining in the EU is the EEA... which is unacceptable to a huge number of people who were promised a bunch of bullshit about Brexit. In fact, the biggest detriment to our negotiating position in Brexit is the huge amount of bullshit the public was fed and the unrealistic promises that any separation from the EU will never be able to live up to. The spineless shits in parliament are more concerned about not upsetting the people who voted them in than acting in the best interests of the country. And that's why no deal looks so likely to me. A good number of people want a second referendum, a good number of people don't want a second referendum - that's a hard decision for spineless politicians to make. A lot of people are just saying "Brexit means Brexit, we want out now!" and others are saying "we need to avoid a No Deal!" and while more MPs may agree with wanting to avoid a No Deal, they're still afraid of making any decision that might be polarising or controversial. It's far easier for them to just do nothing, have us crash out with No Deal, and then do what David Cameron would do upon any of his political failures - use the EU as a scapegoat.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/norwegian-mp-britain-eea-norway-eu-brexiters Granted it’s just 1 Norwegian MP quoted

I don’t have any estimates despite a lot of them theoretically being swayable for either of those. But what I do have is the fact that right now the EU has not agreed to extend the deadline - EU members haven’t given a clear indication that they will even allow an extension. What we do have is the Article 50 deadline coming up and no deal in place. Anything else is just theoretical. And I’m not going to be optimistic about the worst British government in my living memory, that’s done nothing but dither for two years suddenly managing to avert crisis.

No deal is the default position if there is no deal by the deadline. A deal has been reached with the EU, it’s not a good deal (which plenty of people predicted would happen as the EU has so much more leverage in negotiations). What indications do you have that the EU will sit back down and give us a better deal, extension or no extension. And right now the EU position is no extension unless we accept their deal. So yes, it is the default position. But also: yes, no deal is a political choice. It’s one we’re making on our own though - the EU’s stance in negotiations has been predictable and expecting them to suddenly have the UK’s best interests at heart over the EUs is blind optimism.