Dr. Gonzo

Honestly mate why don’t you stick to what you’re best at and defend animal abuse instead of worry about things you don’t understand

He doesn’t view any Israeli as a civilian. Even babies are fair game in his eyes.

Depends how you define fire first. Iran and Israel have been in a Cold War for decades now. Hamas is a proxy of Iran & Qatar, but Hezbollah is a distinctly Iranian proxy that the IRGC basically has total control over. Like with Israel v Hamas, there’s no real “good guys” in a war with Iran & Israel. Just a lot of unwilling participants for a war that really only suits the 2 terrible leaders of the two countries.

The IRGC are oppressors of the Iranian, einstein. Doesn’t take a genius to figure out why an Iranian might like seeing less of them in the world. Also doesn’t take a genius to see why Iranians wouldn’t want to go to war for the people who took to the streets and celebrated when Saddam Hussein invaded them and used chemical weapons on Iranians. But genius you are not, so I can understand why you struggle to comprehend.

I like how I’m now suddenly super pro-Israel in this headcase’s eyes because I don’t think Iranians should die for his cause lol

Unlike you I’ve not taken a side between two bad actors. Unlike you, I’ve condemned both Israel and Palestinian leadership. Because you can only see the conflict in black and white you’ve just given a simplistic narrative to any viewpoint that doesn’t fit in with the bullshit worldview you’ve bought into. You on the other hand cannot bring yourself to criticise terror groups that call for globally wiping out all Jews. If that’s what you stand by, don’t get indignant when it’s called out. You can justify rape and kidnapping as legitimate resistance. There is no room for nuance with you. There is no critical thinking going on in the head behind those eyes. From the comfort of your home in the capital of the country that is most responsible for the state of the Middle East, you call for more bloodshed to whet your appetite. It’s absolutely vile.

https://apnews.com/article/33fcffde2d867380e98c89403776a8ac well looks like our resident warmonger will be pleased

It’s something that can be corrected but generational change isn’t something that even “strong leaders” can easily implement. For Israel it means at the very least getting back to a political sentiment the country really hasn’t had since the 90s - I think that’s pretty tough given the political climate since then. For Palestine that means having leadership that’s really unlike any leadership they’ve had since… maybe the Ottoman Empire(?) or maybe ever. Neither of those are all that realistic - especially when you consider what @Rucksackfranzosesaid. Most leaders that try to demonstrate strength are the exact type of leaders that think compromise is weakness. For this conflict to be settled, you need both sides to have leadership with a strong appetite for compromising towards reaching a lasting peace. There’s quite a lot of people in both communities that don’t view the other side as fully human. These aren’t easy things to try to work through. And hoping for generational change anytime soon with the current tactics used I think is mental. We’re already seeing the foundation for the conflict’s next generation of extremists.

You get the first half of the year & I get 3 vetos, then we switch seats for the second half of the year.

This literally got started over you getting upset about being called out for the most likely reason for why you want more instability in the least stable part of the world…

@Dr. Gonzo & @Spike

I think it’s actually an incredibly hard problem to solve because you’ve got to get large groups of ethnonationalistic people who’ve developed ethnic and religious hatred against each other to see past ethnonationalism and have a desire to live normal lives in peace. Think about it - if there was any easy fix, the fucking conflict wouldn’t send the region into crisis every fucking time something flares up.

You’re the one who’s rattled and emotional That came from your unrepentant support from Hamas and the Houthis (or as you once called them “Yemen” because you have less than a basic understanding of the Middle East). When a group has got calling for the extermination of all Jews in your charter and then there’s you refusing to say a bad thing about them… it’s a reasonable assumption as you bray for blood and pray for someone to kill Israelis for you. Next you bring up my hatred of Iran. Making me a self-hating Iranian, I suppose. But what makes me a self-hating Iranian? Oh it’s because I don’t support a dictatorship that gives less of a fuck about its own citizens. My desire for human rights for my people… means I hate my people. Ok then. And forgive me for not wanting family in Iran for getting bombed in a greater regional war, or for Iran to go the way of Iraq and Syria, over your desire to see more life lost in this conflict. You say I’m wildly extreme in this thread because I’ve called for leadership of both sides to actually look for a long lasting peace. Meanwhile you froth at the mouth at the prospect of growing this war into something bigger because of your bloodlust for Israelis. I don’t have to attempt to make you look like an extremist. You are an extremist.

Lol you might be the dumbest cunt on the forum

Tbh punish both sides and make the land revert back to a British controlled territory. You couldn’t play nice & now you’re condemned to the aftermath of what 10+ years of Tory rule gets you.

Yeah you’ve got a pretty sane thought process to this conflict and mind is similar.

Indeed. Whether it’s Iran, Israel, the U.S., Russia, etc - it’s not really a good thing for anyone not wanting a massive war that’ll take a seriously long time to resolve with a seriously sad amount of death and suffering for civilians to deal with. Might be lost on those human rights loudly cheering for Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, & the IR, like this conflict is a football match… but begging for this to escalate into an even wider regional conflict ultimately isn’t going to bring peace to the Palestinians in a way they anticipate.

Iran seizes cargo ship in Strait of Hormuz after threats to close waterway. Lmao if this is Iran’s response to a bunch of sepahis blown up in Syria, what a joke. Stealing a Portuguese ship owned by a company from Monaco, owned by a guy who was from Israel but hasn’t lived there in decades and lives in Monaco. With a crew all from the Philippines. It’s be like trying to send a message to South Africa by stealing that shipment of Tesla’s held up in Sweden

I’ve called the IDF war criminals, you’re hoping a bunch of people that use Palestinians as pawns just do something to kill Jews and start another long Middle Eastern war because you’re so deep into their propaganda

Ah there it is, the moment you twerk for Khamenei.

That's nice if it's still going - I think I own all of them though

Yeah there's an Assyrian population in Iran too - I do think it's significantly less than the populations of Syrian/Iraqi Assyrians though. I'm not sure about that. Tbh, I forgot they're Christians too - looking at the numbers though, they're an extreme minority even compared to Armenians living in Iran.

The one negative (imo) about Gasperini is the one time he was at a big club he failed big time. So he might be Hodgson-esque, where he's not a bad manager by any means... but once he's in a role where the pressure is seriously on to deliver, he's not the best guy for the job. Imo I'm not sure age should be a consideration for who to appoint. A young up and coming type of manager is good in that they might have a better idea of how to do things in this modern era of football compared to say Mourinho. But I wouldn't say managers with some experience are necessarily dinosaurs tactically - I think Gasperini at 66 with Atalanta over the last few years proves that pretty emphatically. Or Ancelotti at Madrid. The real consideration should be who's going to have us in the best possible position in 3 years, which is likely going to be the length of their contract when they sign with us. If that's a younger up and comer, great - more chance for them to sign an extension and stay with us for a considerable amount of time. If that's someone older where we might be needing a new manager again in 3 years, but they delivered over those 3 years... that's fine by me too. But after so many wasted years in transition and us suddenly finding ourselves in a season where we unexpectedly are competing for a league title - I think the goal should be bringing in someone to keep that as the standard for the next 3 years. My worry with a younger manager is, for any new manager a first season is always a transitional season and expectations should be tempered. I do worry that those without as much experience might have to do some learning on the job that makes the transitional period last a bit longer. Having said that, Xabi Alonso at Leverkusen seems to be doing fine despite the fact that Bayern I think are statistically having a better season than they had last year. So maybe I'm just too apprehensive of someone without experience under pressure due to that time with Rodgers.

There's actually a decent sized Christian population because there a decent number of Armenians in Iran - and people living in Esfahan take advantage of the fact there's many Christian Armenians who are allowed to buy/sell wine by making friends with them so they can skirt the alcohol ban. But you're right that Christianity has a pretty minor history in Iran, outside of Armenian-Iranians... I don't know of any other Christian Iranians. But there's enough of them that it's one of the 4 protected religions in Iran - along with Islam, Zoroastrians (even though they've faced persecution lol), and Jews (same lol).

There’s been a slight rise in people converting to Christianity, but it’s not like people are converting in droves. More people are just abandoning religion altogether. Zoroastrian symbolism is on the rise as people using symbols of Iran’s pre-Islamic past are used as symbols of resisting their government… but it’s not as though people are actually becoming practicing Zoroastrians. Unsurprisingly though, people living under a government that oppresses them in the name of religion are becoming a hell of a lot less religious.