Stan

She's too busy making dinner

This is so true

@MUFC probably fancies doing that.

A few points to take from this: - I don't deny or ignore your own experiences (you know I wouldn't!) - I go back to the point that at 15, I doubt this was the first and immediate time she was being groomed. It probably started well before then. And when you've been coerced and controlled for potentially years before that, the decision is almost out of your hands by the time you get told that you're leaving the country. It's that 'brainwashing' thing - when you're 9, 10 or 11 how much do you really know (or care) about the world? Do we know anything about her childhood leading up to her leaving the UK? At that younger age, once you get picked up or groomed by someone, they hold so much on you and against you it's very difficult to get out of it - I've seen it first hand in my line of work just how easily kids (without a parent/both parents), get targeted and taken advantage of and used. They get all the fancy clothes and gadgets and privileges but that is so easily held against them. And that's just the beginning of the essence of grooming a child. - Regarding the last point - I agree; some have sadly slipped through the net and caused heinous terrorist acts and deaths. Not denying that either. But, as much as I hate the government we have right now, I doubt it's just those that have slipped through and that's it. There's probably hundreds and hundreds they've a) continued to watch and keep surveillance on and b) actually stopped other attacks happening. I don't trust the government at all but even they wouldn't be so blind or dumb enough to realise that she is in the public eye so they'd actually need to do something productive when keeping tracks on her.

I meant where she went on TV and celebrated ISIS bombing the Manchester concert - I don't recall that. You say 'she should have known a lot fucking better'. We all would as kids. But I have no idea about her situation or when the grooming may have even started. We're definitely not talking days or as soon as she turns 15 she's readily packing her bags and fucking off to be a terrorist. None of us can put ourselves in her shoes and even begin to pretend what kind of life she grew up with or what nasty people she grew up around and sadly got involved with - they're the real perpetrators. I don't know how old you are (or how old she was when she started being potentially groomed to join ISIS). Let's say a few years before turning 15. Do you remember what was going on around the world as an 11-12 year old and the ramifications of what would happen if you were to be groomed or coerced into doing something you didn't want to do? Can you begin to imagine the lack of self-control you'd have in that scenario? Also - what do people expect, really, to happen if she is brought back to UK? Do those saying 'keep her out of the UK' really expect her to just be let loose if she is allowed to return? She'll be watched like a fucking hawk.

Nah it's just frustrating knowing it's blocked and I can't seem to do anything about it. It's mild discomfort very occasionally, not constant.

That's sad to hear but hope he recovers fully. Maybe he saw me sell him in Comunio? Sorry, Kingsley

Yep that was my other thought too - I've recently had a cold as well so maybe it's an affect of that too.

Had a blocked ear for about 5 days now. Frustrated as I've tried to unblock it by putting 1-2 drops of oil in it each night. Has worked before but doesn't seem to have worked this time. Any other suggestions? If it hasn't unblocked by Monday I'll be going to GP to get it syringed.

I don't recall this

It's funny how people believe what Prince Andrew did grooming girls years and years ago and want him sent to USA to face punishment. But not want to believe that Shamima could have been groomed at 15 years old to be taken to join ISIS and don't want her brought back to the UK.

Taskmaster, Bake off and Buzzcocks all starting again next week. Sounds good.

Why do politicians make looking awkward so easy?!

Yeah the dead fish one

Glad to wake up to news of her winning. Phenomenal achievement. Fell asleep after the first set through tiredness, definitely wasn't due to the quality of the match as it was very entertaining.

Navratilova (?) is terrible. Andrew Castle and a few others can be good. Tracy Austin is grating to listen to as well.

You use Facebook too much

Great start to the match. Good tennis on show!

Well done, congrats!

Travelled up last night to Manchester. Game called off two hours before start of play. Absolutely farcical. Embarrassing and a massive fuck you to all the fans to leave it this late. Proper pissed off. A lot of this will be the Indian players not wanting to jeopardise their pay check for the IPL which starts soon. But actually quite annoyed they couldn't have just made this decision earlier in the week in any case - be it due to IPL and financial reasons or COVID. All that checking for the weather weeks in advance and its not even that that cancels it

India. Oh god that's not good (visiting @Batard, not visiting France). @Batard did say he went on an all night session and 'lost a friend'. I hope he just meant lost him during the night, not actually anything more sinister.

Yep! July 22, 2020 as per his profile. https://talkfootball365.com/profile/44-ignisexcubitor/

@Faithcore any word on Benson? Still enjoying his summer holidays?

Surely not - what a coincidence... @Whiskey said he was reading the exact same one the other day.

Dread to think what other magazines that are there...