RandoEFC

You know what, I probably am overreacting, so I'll hold my hands up and withdraw my criticism. Sometimes I allow the daft Reds' posts on Twitter and elsewhere to colour my perception of what gets posted on here, it happens. I have no desire to read such sickening blasphemy as what you've used to finish this post.

Should be evicted for smiling at a football match, the family too. Disgraceful taking the seats of 50 year old men who will have to grumble in the pub listening on the radio instead.

You're obviously following this thread as you've liked a post from it this morning. I don't think it's unfair that I remember you calling our fanbase the worst fans in the world and bring it up in this context. For what it's worth, in no way am I going down the "obsessed" route here, and I'm not making banter either. I actually don't care what other clubs and fans think in the slightest. Sometimes you do something that looks cringeworthy to the outside and gets you laughed at, but it's a part of something bigger than that. A lot of people laughed at Klopp for taking his players for that lap of honour thing after scraping a home draw with West Brom, and laughed at the people who said he was trying to bring the fans and players properly together. None of those people are laughing about that now. For the first time in my life, Everton are finally trying to actually do something. The new stadium is happening, no matter how many Liverpool fans on Twitter call it "their imaginary stadium", the fans love the look if it, they're excited by that, they're excited by the more ambitious but sensible and sustainable recruitment, so a small group of fans are trying to sustain the momentum by improving the atmosphere at home games. However, these fans have full time jobs so it's enough for them to make a gesture like they have done and for the rest of the crowd to appreciate it and generally join in.

Football is supposed to be fun. What's the fucking point in going to a game for the prices you have to pay these days if all you want to do is grumble about how American and commercialised your club is becoming when a small group of fans have made a small, simple effort to improve the atmosphere for the benefit of the team? Everton do nothing for the atmosphere = worst fans in the world, shit atmosphere, no wonder the team look nervous when they're playing at home. Everton fans do something proactive for the atmosphere = that's so forced, that's the type of thing you see in America, oh my god all those flags are made of plastic, that makes all of these match-going Everton fans "plastic". Just goes to show you shouldn't pay too much heed to negative opinions because a lot of the time it's just down to people inherently wanting to moan and criticise everything they see in the world around them, or it's just people like @LFCMadLad who criticised our fans last year and actually called them the worst fans in the world because they were groaning at our poor performances, and now likes a post about how the atmosphere has to come from the team. Go figure. The best thing to come out of this is the irony of @NairobiRed calling match-going Blues plastic fans for waving flags at a football match .

Personally think the Reds edge it.

He has clearly instilled some confidence into Keane and Mina after both had a less than straightforward start at the club. It was always going to take some time to adapt. The first half of last season looked like groundhog day at times with us conceding the same goals repeatedly. My belief wavered at times but it was always going to take some time for the team to transition from Allardyce's route one clearances and traditional man marking into using the back four to keep possession and move on the pitch while starting with zonal marking at set pieces as well. Still work to be done. Palace had two great chances last week which Pickford had to save, and Watford had one today as well. Keane and Mina have made a good start together but you can't coach pace and we're likely to be exploited when we come up against the Rashfords and Salahs of the league if we don't adapt our tactics to sit deeper. This is where we lose out by not having Zouma or another similar player as another option.

Goodnight sweetheart .

Now who's original. This smells of an LFCMike on the ale conversation to me, I thought I'd give you a bit of a bite as a courtesy but that's about all I've got in the tank. I will however draw @LFCMadLad's attention to this exchange as you'll probably get a couple of rep points for dessert, to show what an upstanding forum member I am.

A fan running onto the pitch and injuring your backup goalkeeper when your first choice goalkeeper is already injured is a pretty original way to support your team, so yeah I guess we have some catching up to do in that regard. Maybe one day we'll even reach the heights of thousands of grown men cheering on a fat guy masturbating on a fountain in time too.

You are not alone in your opinion. This group of fans called The Originals though, are just that, a group of fans, this isn't a team employed full time by the club to try and get the place rocking. Nobody can expect them to make the mixture of flags. This is a good gesture and effort from them. If nothing else it says, look what a small handful of us have been arsed to do to support the club, please join in. End of the day, it is the team that will get the place rocking and has failed to do so consistently since Martinez' first season.

Bit weird if they were all different colours though isn't it when the club colours are blue and white.

They can wave flags if they want to, they can ignore the flags and get involved off their own backs if they want to, or they can sit and enjoy the game and not get overly involved at all. The net result of the flags is that some people will enjoy it so it should lead to a better atmosphere even if only a little.

I've never seen the issue with all this plastic flag stuff. They're flags. There's a group called The Originals trying to do something about the atmosphere at Goodison and if this gets a small slice of the crowd more engaged and enthusiastic fair enough. They seem to be getting a lot of stick for it, if you don't want to wave a flag because you feel like a kid doing it then don't wave one. Yer da just wants to sit with a piping hot brew and scream TERN at 21 year old academy products and hurl dogs abuse at them when they don't score a hat trick from left back every other game.

Scholes was better than both so yeah it was a pointless debate.

You never know, he might be a CM instead of a CDM on the next FIFA, and they will come in their droves over the side of common sense.

Wan-Bissaka vs Alexander-Arnold going to be the running debate for the next 18 months is it? Better strap in, it's going to be a tedious ride.

Maybe this will be the season people who don't understand football stop acting shocked when Kante doesn't play as a number six.

I know it's probably unrealistic but if you walked down the street telling "Tammy Abraham is a fucking n*gger" then you'd get the shit kicked out of you or you'd get arrested depending on who got to you first. Tweets that are reported as racist should be forwarded to the local police, like what happened with the Everton fan who made that Salah bomb vest tweet the other week.

Andy Murray returned to singles this week as well. Looked very rusty and tentative which is to be expected but improved as the match went on. Lost 64 64 to Gasquet, who has been in decent form, so not too bad.

Do Liverpool fans actually enjoy not winning the league?

I am impressed

When I calculate how much space would be taken up by 500 metres of 0.3mm line, it isnt exactly the same as 350m of 0.35mm line, so it has to be an approximation. My exact measurement was 397.5 metres of line so 400m is a safe bet.

@The Rebel CRS, my calculations also came out very close to 400 yards so that should be a good bet.