Administrator Stan Posted August 4, 2023 Administrator Posted August 4, 2023 Good move, and Chelsea probably have good faith in Palace after the Gallagher loan. Think he'd be quite good.
Cicero Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 That's a great first loan move. Hope he does get nurtured as a LB because I doubt he'd have a future here in midfield.
Dave Posted August 8, 2023 Author Posted August 8, 2023 It sounds like this announcement is imminent.
Cicero Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 Agreed a 6+1 year extension. Fantastic. Hopefully displaces Cucurella next season.
Dave Posted August 9, 2023 Author Posted August 9, 2023 This is the exact moment where Flynn Downes bolted last summer.
Dave Posted August 16, 2023 Author Posted August 16, 2023 On 09/08/2023 at 18:14, The Palace Fan said: This is the exact moment where Flynn Downes bolted last summer. History looks like it might repeat itself with Newcastle showing interest. Im still quietly confident. Im sure Chelsea would rather send him here than a rival competing for a CL spot.
Cicero Posted August 16, 2023 Posted August 16, 2023 Think that is photoshop. Would be be going to Newcastle to play LB?
OrangeKhrush Posted August 16, 2023 Posted August 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, Cicero said: Think that is photoshop. Would be be going to Newcastle to play LB? I see him playing a versatile role, like James Perch did. The value of that type of player is hard to quantify but he will certainly develop more than on the bench at Chelsea. First XI Pope Trippier Schar Botman Tierney/Hall Tonali BrunoG Joe7inton Almiron Isak Barnes Second XI Dubravka Livramento Lascelles Burn Targett Anderson Longstaff Willock Murphy Wilson Gordon Surplus: Dummett, Ritchie, Karius Academy: McArthur, Alex Murphy, Miley, Parkinson, De Bolle, Turner-Cooke
Cicero Posted August 16, 2023 Posted August 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: I see him playing a versatile role, like James Perch did. The value of that type of player is hard to quantify but he will certainly develop more than on the bench at Chelsea. First XI Pope Trippier Schar Botman Tierney/Hall Tonali BrunoG Joe7inton Almiron Isak Barnes Second XI Dubravka Livramento Lascelles Burn Targett Anderson Longstaff Willock Murphy Wilson Gordon Surplus: Dummett, Ritchie, Karius Academy: McArthur, Alex Murphy, Miley, Parkinson, De Bolle, Turner-Cooke Things would start to make a little more sense then. If you guarantee him a starting spot at LB + Champions League football, I can see him pushing for the move. (Toon fan as well).
OrangeKhrush Posted August 16, 2023 Posted August 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, Cicero said: Things would start to make a little more sense then. If you guarantee him a starting spot at LB + Champions League football, I can see him pushing for the move. (Toon fan as well). Getting Hall (or Tierney) would buy us an extra year to delay center backs as it will mean Burn will move back to Center back cover.
Cicero Posted August 16, 2023 Posted August 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Cicero said: Things would start to make a little more sense then. If you guarantee him a starting spot at LB + Champions League football, I can see him pushing for the move. (Toon fan as well). Called it. https://x.com/cfcpys/status/1691929448591831430?s=46&t=IADWMMDWtMYMPFeimX1NoQ
OrangeKhrush Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 i read that some time ago that he is a big Newcastle fan. probably the best time to come as there is no Steve Bruce to ruin him. he fits the model as we are trying to get the squad younger and if we can land Tino and Hall in the same window that's proper business.
Dave Posted August 17, 2023 Author Posted August 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Cicero said: Called it. https://x.com/cfcpys/status/1691929448591831430?s=46&t=IADWMMDWtMYMPFeimX1NoQ Player would prefer Champions League football over team that routinely finishes outside top half. Wow. Please tell me this weekends lottery numbers.
Cicero Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, The Palace Fan said: Player would prefer Champions League football over team that routinely finishes outside top half. Wow. Please tell me this weekends lottery numbers. Funny. Except my point was Hall pushing to join Newcastle vs Chelsea deeming him as surplus and needing to sell.
OrangeKhrush Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 Looks like its 28m + addon's. I think it is a bit of a steal and has Dan Ashworth all over it. The kicker here is that Chelsea have done the leg work in developing him into a premier league starter, now they are flogging him off.
Cicero Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 He was offered a 6+1 year extension. Club didn't want to sell until Newcastle showed interest and the player pushed for the move, as David Ornstein stated. He's a good chance creator from out wide and definitely a player that can be molded into a good LB. At the moment he is still horrific defensively. £30m+ for a 18 year old with only 8 Premier League starts is pretty good business.
OrangeKhrush Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Cicero said: He was offered a 6+1 year extension. Club didn't want to sell until Newcastle showed interest and the player pushed for the move, as David Ornstein stated. He's a good chance creator from out wide and definitely a player that can be molded into a good LB. At the moment he is still horrific defensively. £30m+ for a 18 year old with only 8 Premier League starts is pretty good business. https://fbref.com/en/players/da011f18/scout/365_m1/Lewis-Hall-Scouting-Report If that is bad defensively, I would hate to see him when he is having an average day.
Cicero Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: https://fbref.com/en/players/da011f18/scout/365_m1/Lewis-Hall-Scouting-Report If that is bad defensively, I would hate to see him when he is having an average day. He's got 9 Premier League appearances. 8 starts. His metrics in comparison to other fullbacks in the league as a percentile will have its discrepancies.
Danny Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 Whenever I’ve seen him play he’s looked out of his depth, interesting move
Lucas Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Danny said: Whenever I’ve seen him play he’s looked out of his depth, interesting move Totally disagree. Thought he was supurb against Man Utd at Old Trafford near the end if the season and tbh, thought he was decent against City at the Etihad, although they had just won the league at that point. Lots of development to come for sure but out of his depth, couldn't disagree more and I've seen Junior Firpo play Left Back in the Premier League for two years.
Danny Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Lucas said: Totally disagree. Thought he was supurb against Man Utd at Old Trafford near the end if the season and tbh, thought he was decent against City at the Etihad, although they had just won the league at that point. Lots of development to come for sure but out of his depth, couldn't disagree more and I've seen Junior Firpo play Left Back in the Premier League for two years. In fairness I’ve only seen him a couple of times, but he just kept losing the ball and losing duels.
Devil Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Cicero said: He was offered a 6+1 year extension. Club didn't want to sell until Newcastle showed interest and the player pushed for the move, as David Ornstein stated. He's a good chance creator from out wide and definitely a player that can be molded into a good LB. At the moment he is still horrific defensively. £30m+ for a 18 year old with only 8 Premier League starts is pretty good business. That's a ridiculous fee, something dodgy going on at Chelsea. That fee has blown my mind given his lack of games.
OrangeKhrush Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Devil said: That's a ridiculous fee, something dodgy going on at Chelsea. That fee has blown my mind given his lack of games. Real Madrid signed vinicius and rodrygo from brazil for over 30m, and didn't chelsea also sign a teen from brazil for about 40m this season.
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