Rucksackfranzose 4,387 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 hours ago, Stan said: Is a country actually that good if the military have to keep things in order? Brilliant question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,105 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 hours ago, Stan said: Is a country actually that good if the military have to keep things in order? How many countries police are just the military under a different name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose 4,387 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Spike said: How many countries police are just the military under a different name? Numerous of them are failed states, dictatures, or both, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku de la Boca 121 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 15 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: Numerous of them are failed states, dictatures, or both, though. Calling us a failed state is harsh though. I just looked it up and very few are truly "failed states". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,195 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Goku de la Boca said: Calling us a failed state is harsh though. I just looked it up and very few are truly "failed states". Most of South America falls under the “elevated warning” status on the 2023 Fragile States index though. Granted, it’s not a perfect index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku de la Boca 121 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Most of South America falls under the “elevated warning” status on the 2023 Fragile States index though. Granted, it’s not a perfect index. We are far from first world for sure so I think that is fair, but failed state is extreme. Haiti is a failed state. Sudan is a failed state. Peru is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose 4,387 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Goku de la Boca said: We are far from first world for sure so I think that is fair, but failed state is extreme. Haiti is a failed state. Sudan is a failed state. Peru is not. Said numerous not all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku de la Boca 121 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Rucksackfranzose said: Said numerous not all. No, you're right but I think in our case the military helps keep the constitution in check, something I find very surprising given the level of corruption and informality in this country. The politicians can't pull stupid shenanigans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 West Asia Latin America In order for these two regions to see peace and stability the whole current world order has to fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,105 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, Goku de la Boca said: We are far from first world for sure so I think that is fair, but failed state is extreme. Haiti is a failed state. Sudan is a failed state. Peru is not. First world isn’t economic status. It’s a Cold War term to delineate communist countries and those allied with the USA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku de la Boca 121 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Spike said: First world isn’t economic status. It’s a Cold War term to delineate communist countries and those allied with the USA. I did not know that. I guess "developing country" would be a better term? Regardless, we are pretty strong economically for LATAM standards. We have the third strongest currency in the Americas at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,105 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Goku de la Boca said: I did not know that. I guess "developing country" would be a better term? Regardless, we are pretty strong economically for LATAM standards. We have the third strongest currency in the Americas at the moment. Yes, developing country would be more correct. Because with the definition of ‘first world’ Peru very much is a first world country due to it’s alliance to the Western Bloc during the cold war. It’s funny that the term ‘third world’ has become shorthand for ‘developing’ or ‘poverty’, it really shows a condescension mindset of western countries to the rest of the world, it often shows up in the concept of ‘orientalising’ I think. That’s a whole other thing in itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku de la Boca 121 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 16 minutes ago, Spike said: Yes, developing country would be more correct. Because with the definition of ‘first world’ Peru very much is a first world country due to it’s alliance to the Western Bloc during the cold war. It’s funny that the term ‘third world’ has become shorthand for ‘developing’ or ‘poverty’, it really shows a condescension mindset of western countries to the rest of the world, it often shows up in the concept of ‘orientalising’ I think. That’s a whole other thing in itself. Thanks for that insight, I was part of that mindset unfortunately but only because it became such a commonly misused term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku de la Boca 121 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 Civilians ready to fight. Good on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris 2,606 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I knew the Mexican Cartels would have some form of involvement. The Jalisco nueva generación are trafficking weapons into Colombia and Ecuador at an alarming rate, which is obviously worrying for both countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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