Happy Blue Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Okay. Why are high performance athletes, the fittest people on earth, all on high carb diets? Or even carb loading? We're taught that food and exercise is your first medicine, and that medication should be avoided. You're a Karen. Can you prove that? ..how come i can out lift most of them on a low carb diet?? ..how come you can survive just fine with zero carbs but you would die if you didn't eat fat?? your body makes its own carbs, think back thousands of years ago man lived mainly on fatty meat and didn't even eat everyday, fasting has some great benefits and along with a low carb diet you will be in the best shape of your life, carbs, grains cause inflammation, they are the devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Can you prove that? ..how come i can out lift most of them on a low carb diet?? ..how come you can survive just fine with zero carbs but you would die if you didn't eat fat?? your body makes its own carbs, think back thousands of years ago man lived mainly on fatty meat and didn't even eat everyday, fasting has some great benefits and along with a low carb diet you will be in the best shape of your life, carbs, grains cause inflammation, they are the devil Dairy causes inflammation. Exercise causes inflammation. I don't care what your fat ass can lift. Your ability to lift heavy weight is defined by genetic potential, training specificity and training age. You have lifted heavy for many years and are a big guy. Yes, you can lift lots. Wowzer. Oh look, Carbs make up the majority of Brian Shaws diet Oh shit, same for eddie hall Lets change training specificity shall we? Starch, rice, dumplings from Bolt Breads everywhere in a marathon runners diet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 There is huge money in sports, a ton of research goes into every aspect of what can legally give a nation or team an edge. If eating low carb diets was some secret health magic, it'd be everywhere. NFL, EPL ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Dairy causes inflammation. Exercise causes inflammation. I don't care what your fat ass can lift. Your ability to lift heavy weight is defined by genetic potential, training specificity and training age. You have lifted heavy for many years and are a big guy. Yes, you can lift lots. Wowzer. Oh look, Carbs make up the majority of Brian Shaws diet Oh shit, same for eddie hall Lets change training specificity shall we? Starch, rice, dumplings from Bolt Breads everywhere in a marathon runners diet And these guys are sadly probably going to die young, having your insulin levels spiked all day is not healthy ...we just going to go around in circles, i like you so we will just agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Happy Blue said: And these guys are sadly probably going to die young, having your insulin levels spiked all day is not healthy ...we just going to go around in circles, i like you so we will just agree to disagree Yes, Shaw and Eddie will die young. Putting your body under immense physical stress constantly is not good for you, nor are the steroids they've cycled for years and years. Nor is carrying that much weight on your frame. Your heart can't tell the difference between fat and muscle. All it knows is that 150kgs is hard fucking work. However, it will have nothing to do with their carbs. Highest life expectancy by country, the top 10 are... A bunch of Asian nations, who base their diets around white meats and rice/noodles, Italy, who base it around bread based dishes, and the Swiss, who fucking love bread. You can believe what you want, and you can certainly maintain a healthy diet with low carbohydrates if you wish, but don't peddle your misinformation here please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Yes, Shaw and Eddie will die young. Putting your body under immense physical stress constantly is not good for you, nor are the steroids they've cycled for years and years. Nor is carrying that much weight on your frame. Your heart can't tell the difference between fat and muscle. All it knows is that 150kgs is hard fucking work. However, it will have nothing to do with their carbs. Highest life expectancy by country, the top 10 are... A bunch of Asian nations, who base their diets around white meats and rice/noodles, Italy, who base it around bread based dishes, and the Swiss, who fucking love bread. You can believe what you want, and you can certainly maintain a healthy diet with low carbohydrates if you wish, but don't peddle your misinformation here please. Don't agree, hundreds of real high ranking doctors say different Asians in general are much smaller people and like you pointed out carrying huge weight around is a strain on the heart ...i'm preaching the truth, it's not misinformation, low carb is the healthiest diet on the planet backed by real study's and some of the top Dr's P.s will have some updated pictures soon, getting ripped to shit on keto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Don't agree, hundreds of real high ranking doctors say different Asians in general are much smaller people and like you pointed out carrying huge weight around is a strain on the heart ...i'm preaching the truth, it's not misinformation, low carb is the healthiest diet on the planet backed by real study's and some of the top Dr's P.s will have some updated pictures soon, getting ripped to shit on keto I'm glad. And you're right, there are a zillion other reasons that contribute to life expectancy. The availability of healthcare, the absence of chronic disease ect. But funny that they all have diets based around grains. I have full access to Scopus and PubMed as an academic. I'd love to see these real studies mate. If a low carb diet was best, it'd be in the interest of the scientific community to have this information as part of public nutrition campaigns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I'm glad. And you're right, there are a zillion other reasons that contribute to life expectancy. The availability of healthcare, the absence of chronic disease ect. But funny that they all have diets based around grains. I have full access to Scopus and PubMed as an academic. I'd love to see these real studies mate. If a low carb diet was best, it'd be in the interest of the scientific community to have this information as part of public nutrition campaigns. If everyone got fit and healthy how many billions would big pharma lose? not everything is black and white ..i will dig out the study's and relevant videos ..start by watching the last video above, two doctors talking about insulin, starts properly about 7mins in Edited March 26, 2021 by Happy Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 We're not funded or incentivized by "big pharma" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Nutrition studies, You cant live on bread & grains alone, but you can live on meat alone!, your body makes it's own carbs ..proves high endurance athletes perform well in ketosis Studies https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26892521/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6213862/ https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(18)76842-7/pdf https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30289048/ https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13300-018-0373-9 What makes me really upset is that these studies were done way back in the day, but doctors were prescribing diabetes patients all this medication, when all they had to do was change their diet. Edited March 26, 2021 by Happy Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 None of this is impressive. You have 2 studies that say keto diet could be beneficial to people with type 2 diabetes. Very cool. I'm genuinely glad that I have that information now. You have a study that credits the fat loss of a keto diet to the food control that it entails, rather than the diet being the mechanism. An anecdotal "study "from 1930, which is an absolute joke, so I didn't read it, and a study that says keto marathon runners have higher fat oxidization, but no benefits for glycogen storage or depletion. I still have no reason to believe my morning cereal is killing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted March 26, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 26, 2021 52 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I still have no reason to believe my morning cereal is killing me. I hope so too. We don't want to have a cereal killer on our hands. Hey hey 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Tommy said: I hope so too. We don't want to have a cereal killer on our hands. Hey hey You took the bait! I thought happy blue would 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: You took the bait! I thought happy blue would I've only just woke up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Breads everywhere in a marathon runners diet Although I agree with your argument, this bloke is 100% on something. I've never seen a marathon competitor like Nick Bare. Bloke runs a 4 minute mile, bikes regularly, yet is still incredibly swole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 @Devil-Dick Willie you might find this interesting buddy, he doesn't bag on carbs and states they have there place in sports etc which i fully agree with, i've been high carb for most my life but low carbs are defiantly better for your overall health which i have to think about now i'm older and a dad to 4 kids but it's a nice balanced piece, i find this guys videos are really interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Happy Blue said: @Devil-Dick Willie you might find this interesting buddy, he doesn't bag on carbs and states they have there place in sports etc which i fully agree with, i've been high carb for most my life but low carbs are defiantly better for your overall health which i have to think about now i'm older and a dad to 4 kids but it's a nice balanced piece, i find this guys videos are really interesting He's a well reputed bullshit merchant. Not watching that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Cicero said: Although I agree with your argument, this bloke is 100% on something. I've never seen a marathon competitor like Nick Bare. Bloke runs a 4 minute mile, bikes regularly, yet is still incredibly swole. That has nothing to do with my argument though. And I know a few crossfit athletes, local dudes who are natty who are similar size to this bloke. Not forming an opinion for or against though as I have no clue about his details or what he looks like under great lighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: He's a well reputed bullshit merchant. Not watching that. He say's good things about carbs ffs! ..it's bullshit because you don't agree with him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Happy Blue said: He say's good things about carbs ffs! ..it's bullshit because you don't agree with him?? I haven't seen the video, so I can't say I agree or disagree, and just because someone might have a dozen bullshit videos doesn't mean they're all bad. But, the guys famous for bullshitting about fat loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I haven't seen the video, so I can't say I agree or disagree, and just because someone might have a dozen bullshit videos doesn't mean they're all bad. But, the guys famous for bullshitting about fat loss. Can you give me an example please where he has lied because i follow this guy to the letter, not arguing with you, just i've never seen anything he's lied about so far ..i do think he might be juicing a little even if it's only winstrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Can you give me an example please where he has lied because i follow this guy to the letter, not arguing with you, just i've never seen anything he's lied about so far ..i do think he might be juicing a little even if it's only winstrol Why would someone run Winstrol only? "A calorie is not a calorie" video is bs "5 causes of belly fat for men" ect ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just had a look, hes CLEARLY not natural are you fucking kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Why would someone run Winstrol only? "A calorie is not a calorie" video is bs "5 causes of belly fat for men" ect ect. Not sure if i've watched them yet, will get back to you ..as for winstrol it cuts you up, if i was ever to do roid's again id just use that on its own and maybe a real ECA stack like the old T5's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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