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I think it would be fair to argue that it can't be working if cases are rising exponentially. However, there was an overnight rapid jump in cases within 24-48 hours of some schools going back. If you are running something administrative like this which has a steady level then bang it doubles it is going to be so easy to fall behind the game.

Clusters of cases are tracked on a weekly basis through track and trace data. Main culprits of clusters are care homes by far, again, then schools, workplaces and restaurants. However most covid cases can't or aren't being traced to a cluster. Probably because of asymptomatic carriers. That's where or maybe why household restrictions come in. You tend to only hear in the news if a cluster is found, maybe in a factory or a pub.

North East rule is households can't mix full stop. Whether indoors, outdoors, at the pub, whatever. You might not get full compliance but most older people I know and hear of are following the new guidelines. Estimates in previous restrictions were for around 75-90% compliance. Highest compliance among over 60s. That was sufficient back then to work. It didn't stop the attempts to blame non-compliance and set things up as if a full beach is the problem. In some ways that chastising acts as a deterrent against more breaking the rules. If the new restrictions don't work then blame can't be at the door of non-compliance but rather the insufficent rules. Non-compliance should be priced in to any rules.

what a name

Ashley has appointed the most successful sports lawyer in the UK to take on the Premier League.

Your bosses sound all over the place there

Surprised at this but had an absolute shocker pre-season. Regularly injured.

Probably not getting the coverage it should but the club statement is huge. It's essentially saying the Premier League are liars. Court fees won't be cheap. Even if the buyers don't want it anymore the Premier League could be made to give millions to Mike Ashley.

I don't really get the whining to be honest. The previous rule was that only 2 households could mix. Including in restaurants, bars, parks. The Police don't have time to ask for everyone's address but counting numbers is straight forward. It's also not all or nothing. It might contradict on the surface that you can go to work but not have a big family meal but statistically stopping one does impact the R rate. You might get the desired fall without stopping both.

Here we go again

SAGE are absolutely shitting it as the virus increasingly looks like it soon can't be confined to local hotspots.

The best bit is a week ago Mason Greenwood was saying how he's level headed I'm not sure I want to know what shape penis that is.

Foden has a gf as well. What a cunt.

Mahrez and Laporte have covid.

Our full strength team just lost 5-1 in a behind closed doors friendly against Middlesbrough wtf

Fee is likely higher because we are getting £1.5m of this rising to £3m.

With the deadline 4 or 5 games into the season I reckon some clubs are waiting to see what they can get away without doing.

Kept us up last year. That being said Darlow has the ability to do a good enough job, but as a team we'll have to be better than the one that relied on Dubravka last season. With no new centre forward and Gayle now out for months I just don't see it. Ashley spent the £17m he got from the Saudi's buying up stock in other companies I'm afraid. Free transfers and loans only according to Bruce.

Healthy people don't wfh to protect themselves. Wfh is to prevent spreading the virus. It's not all about the individuals personal risk. Statistically wfh supresses community spread which aids in lowering the risk of those who cannot wfh. Risk isn't equal so increasing the risk for everyone because of that inequality is self defeating. Phased management using good quality data seems wiser than getting Pret back open tomorrow in central London when fiscal decisions can mitigate issues Pret have. You fill restaurants. Was there a spike? No then open the next thing. Spike? No, open the next thing. Spike? Yes, hold, pause or reverse and so on. Fiscal and monetary policy can be used to allow for that strategy.

I have nowhere said we would bounce back no problem. I am arguing that it isn't a case of needing to all go back immediately or else. I see no good case for the all or nothing economic argument put forward. Fiscal and monetary policies can be considered to buy time and aid in phased return. They provide options to consider in conjunction with the virus impacts and risk mitigation. There are serious risks to chancing it with rising case rates among the healthy. Most notably that it is exactly what caused the second massive jump in deaths in the US. The "healthy" take the virus back to the unhealthy and the unlucky. The current phased management approach with offices slowly returning is a risk aversion strategy fiscal and monetary policy has the tools to support if used correctly

Story about middle class people working from home at a company in London someone I know works for. About 6 weeks ago the boss demanded everyone go back to the office or be sacked. The boss got covid. Killed his dad. Now in hospital on a ventilator. Office shut again.

Nothing in there about the current or potential fiscal options to address sandwich shops lack of or non-existent revenue. It's not get back there or else. That's the point. There are actually options to choose from. I posit this is more about an underlying attitude about the virus and not because of any actual economic detail that goes any deeper. Back in January and February you led the posts playing down this virus, blaming red tops and calling it just like any other flu. 41,433 UK deaths later you're here plugging the line that the potency isn't as bad as early conservative figures. I suspect a connection. The econony is almost a get out of jail free card for the kind of attitude that shafted the west in the first place.

What capacity are we at now? Based on what?Why 75%? What does that actually mean? Who does that benefit? What sectors? What industries? What are the fiscal alternatives for those sectors? What are the monetary requirements and options for the sectors credit lines in varied scenarios? What shape is that sectors forecasted recovery in varies scenarios? How long can any fiscal or monetary policy hold in that sector before needing a new round? I never said worrying about the economy is liberatarian. Its the idea of what the economy needs that I said is libertarian. The reason it is mainly liberatarians is because they are the group whose philosophy overrides bothering to go into detail.

Also, the notion that if you're healthy it's fine is wrong. My 59 year old mother was perfectly healthy. She has barely been able to walk for 5 months. An estimated 500,000 people in the UK have long term complications from COVID. The vast majority were never in need of hospitalisation. What's the economic ramifications of letting healthy people get fucked and their friends and relatives then cautiously withdraw from a libertarian society? You end up right back where you started from but with opinion polls going crackers.