Ismaila Sarr - Newcastle Linked After Failed Villa Move

[Stan]

Apparently the move to Villa fell through because he has chosen to wanting to stay in London.

So not sure how Newcastle have become linked or if he thinks it's close to London  

[Reluctant Striker]

Ahh, ok.. I'd heard it was Sarr's personal terms, with some vagueness suggested at. And also that Gerrard didn't fancy it after talking to him.

Reminds me of David Unsworth many years ago who supposedly didn't realise Villa were where they were, after signing up.. and then got transferred on in rapid time. In from West Ham & back on home to 1st club Everton all during the summer of 1998.

So Newcastle could still be on for Sarr..

[Reluctant Striker]

I was reading an article somewhere the other day that Crystal Palace were another interested club. Presumably from a Palace journalist.. bigging up how he'd clearly be better off at Selhurst Park.

[Lucas]

Sarr is a really funny one, I'm still trying to work him out.

He feels the kind of player that thrives on confidence but without it, games pass him by.

I don't really think he set the world alight last season in the Premier League, infact I think he needs to really work on his end product.

Feels like the Liverpool links from a few seasons ago have come and gone now. We saw glimpses of the raw ability he had then but has he really come on a lot since then? If he had, surely he'd have moved by now.

There is talent there with him to be improved with the right guidance and not being funny, that's not going to happen at Watford. But jury is very much out on him still for me.

[OrangeKhrush]

57 minutes ago, Stan said:

Apparently the move to Villa fell through because he has chosen to wanting to stay in London.

So not sure how Newcastle have become linked or if he thinks it's close to London  

players make strange decisions

[OrangeKhrush]

23 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Sarr is a really funny one, I'm still trying to work him out.

He feels the kind of player that thrives on confidence but without it, games pass him by.

I don't really think he set the world alight last season in the Premier League, infact I think he needs to really work on his end product.

Feels like the Liverpool links from a few seasons ago have come and gone now. We saw glimpses of the raw ability he had then but has he really come on a lot since then? If he had, surely he'd have moved by now.

There is talent there with him to be improved with the right guidance and not being funny, that's not going to happen at Watford. But jury is very much out on him still for me.

Never rated him,  but maybe it is watford's limitations over his

[Dave]

57 minutes ago, Reluctant Striker said:

I was reading an article somewhere the other day that Crystal Palace were another interested club. Presumably from a Palace journalist.. bigging up how he'd clearly be better off at Selhurst Park.

I hope not. I'm really not comfortable with us having a player who supported Idrissa Gueye's stance at the end of last season playing in a Palace shirt. 

One of the reasons I support Palace is because how well the club represents the local area and the good relationship the club has with the fanbase. So for them to go out and sign someone who vocally supported a players stance against a campaign that stood against homophobia would really disappoint me. Even more so when you consider the work Proud and Palace have been doing in recent years.

[OrangeKhrush]

17 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said:

I hope not. I'm really not comfortable with us having a player who supported Idrissa Gueye's stance at the end of last season playing in a Palace shirt. 

One of the reasons I support Palace is because how well the club represents the local area and the good relationship the club has with the fanbase. So for them to go out and sign someone who vocally supported a players stance against a campaign that stood against homophobia would really disappoint me. Even more so when you consider the work Proud and Palace have been doing in recent years.

Not sure what was said,  but Gueye refusing to wear brandings of fake corporate tokenism is not the only instance,  the Tampa Bay Rays had 5 pitchers refuse to wear the rainbow TB rays badge due to their reasons.  I am not for people who use free speech to advocate direct discrimination against homesexual people and that will never be condoned,  but wearing brandings is not a show of support because (people lie) and it fuels the ritualistic narcissm of fringe groups trying to polute "liberalism" with some questionable lifestyles,  ie: drag queens grooming kids with adult entertainment is filth,  and pedophilia

[Dave]

15 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said:

Not sure what was said,  but Gueye refusing to wear brandings of fake corporate tokenism is not the only instance,  the Tampa Bay Rays had 5 pitchers refuse to wear the rainbow TB rays badge due to their reasons.  I am not for people who use free speech to advocate direct discrimination against homesexual people and that will never be condoned,  but wearing brandings is not a show of support because (people lie) and it fuels the ritualistic narcissm of fringe groups trying to polute "liberalism" with some questionable lifestyles,  ie: drag queens grooming kids with adult entertainment is filth,  and pedophilia

If that's how you want to justify signing this particular player then all power to you.

After hearing what people who work with Proud and Palace have said about how they were hurt by Cheikou Kouyate's stance on this particular issue I'd rather we avoid players whose beliefs do not coincide with that of the fan base and wider community. 

[OrangeKhrush]

Just now, The Palace Fan said:

If that's how you want to justify signing this particular player then all power to you.

After hearing what people who work with Proud and Palace have said about how they were hurt by Cheikou Kouyate's stance on this particular issue I'd rather we avoid players whose beliefs do not coincide with that of the fan base and wider community. Which may not be as much as an issue given the ownership at Newcastle United.

hate speech that actually exists is not condonable,  but refusing to wear brandings is not homophobic.  

[Dave]

7 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said:

hate speech that actually exists is not condonable,  but refusing to wear brandings is not homophobic.  

In this particular incident they wore the branding to mark the International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia. 

[OrangeKhrush]

4 hours ago, The Palace Fan said:

In this particular incident they wore the branding to mark the International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia. 

I don't think forcing people to wear something achieves a) tolerance and b)  the commercialisation of LGBTQ underscores any ideals they purport to carry out.  I know a gay couple,  they have been married over 12 years now and they have never been persecuted or victimised based on the sexual orientation.   The notion of rampant homosexuality is a modern thing,  victimhood is easy to sell.   There is LGBTQ month every month it seems,  then you must mark your alliegence by wearing the colours,  groups with special dress codes are cults.

I read that Gueye is muslim and that probably explains his reluctance to pledge fealty to the cause,  its very funny that the poeple that call muslims intolerant are the ones that call out people calling islamic extremists bad,  islamophobes.   

One can be tolerant of other peoples differences (works both ways),  without ritualistic  showing of fealty.   The LGBTQ movement is not without its ideals that are beyond the scope of morally acceptable,  that trans drag queen and kids stuff is no bueno,  manipulating hormones of kids and brainwashing them into perceived transexuality because he wont play with GI Joes or she wont play with barbies hence they must trans is beyond the scope of bonos mores.  

Why don't we just have a international everyday be nice to each other drop the pigeon holing BS or showing of devotion so as to rile up division with extreme political ideology day.    This phenomenon is something that only came to the for since 2016 or thereabouts,  because it never was a problem. 

[Dave]

Well, as I said earlier, if that's how you want to justify signing this particular player then all power to you.

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said:

 its very funny that the poeple that call muslims intolerant are the ones that call out people calling islamic extremists bad,  islamophobes. 

Is it? I don't think most people called out for being islamophobes are being called out because they said "extremists are bad" - it's usually because they make pretty divisive statements about a huge group of people based off stereotypes about their religion or their part of the world.

Generally speaking, all 3 Abrahamic religions have pretty intolerant views on gays, trans, bis... and a hell of a lot of other people as well.

Anyways, weird tangent for this potential signing. I think the player himself has a lot of raw talent but maybe not the best footballing brain in the world. And maybe not the best brain in the world generally if he thinks Newcastle is closer to London than Birmingham.

[OrangeKhrush]

I think players will always be open to moves where there is potential to grow.  

as a player I'm not interested in Sarr, at 24 he is kind of rounding into his potential but he seems to have no game management or end product.   maybe it is Watford being a bad team that inhibited his game I'm not sure.   

all things considered he is probably better than Murphy and Fraser

[Devil-Dick Willie]

Why were villa in for him anyway? They have plenty of fluid attacking players. They need a midfield and defense. 

[Storts]

1 hour ago, Devil-Dick Willie said:

Why were villa in for him anyway? They have plenty of fluid attacking players. They need a midfield and defense. 

Gender fluid? 

[Devil-Dick Willie]

7 minutes ago, Storts said:

Gender fluid? 

Coutinho might be 

[OrangeKhrush]

the Diego Carlos injury was just horrid luck.  It has made the situation tough for Villa as now they gamble on the three or need to invest in a CB again then have a surplus.

I said to a friend that supports villa they are now thankful they didn't sell Mings.