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Steve Cotterill Sacked by Birmingham City; Garry Monk Takes Over


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1 minute ago, Dan said:

Birmingham fans absolutely loathed him.

He's crap. Can't see how he's rated.

Honestly I hope they still go down, it would be hilarious to see all those fans calling us their feeder team drop down a division.

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42 minutes ago, Danny said:

Honestly I hope they still go down, it would be hilarious to see all those fans calling us their feeder team drop down a division.

That really is the ultimate humiliation, to sign a number of players for millions off a club for them to then beat you 5-0 that following season.

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6 hours ago, Dan said:

Birmingham fans absolutely loathed him.

He's crap. Can't see how he's rated.

They all wanted him for some reason initially. I don't know if there's a local or a playing affiliation but I'm struggling to see how he's been going at this level for so long. A dislikeable character that never plans long term.

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Always good for a stupid quote as well. I'm 24 years old, have never worked in football in my life and would never ever be stupid enough to say "we don't make those two stupid mistakes for their goals we run out 0-1 winners" and be entirely serious when doing so.

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3 hours ago, Danny said:

Proven Swansea right for sacking him.

The sacking there goes beyond just results on the pitch. 

Apparently a shareholder was having an affair with one of the players wives. Monk didn't take that players side and sided with the management/heirarchy. The players didn't like this, lost respect from the players and turned on him. 

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13 hours ago, Danny said:

Proven Swansea right for sacking him.

Have they? They were doing awfully under him. If anything I'd criticise him before anyone else in terms of manager as it was under him they fell from a solid PL side to what they are now, which is an annual relegation battler.

Obviously it isn't just the manager but I've never really got the fuss with him. They declined under him, Leeds tailed off under him, and Middlesbrough have improved post-Monk.

Maybe I'm just harsh but I think he's very ordinary.

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9 hours ago, Stan said:

The sacking there goes beyond just results on the pitch. 

Apparently a shareholder was having an affair with one of the players wives. Monk didn't take that players side and sided with the management/heirarchy. The players didn't like this, lost respect from the players and turned on him. 

And that player returned with a Premier League winners medal xD 

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8 hours ago, The Palace Fan said:

I'm pretty sure you changed your opinion when things were going well at Leeds. 

Find proof of that and I'm happy to hold my hands up. Doubt there's any out there to find though.

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It isn't that hard to find. If it's there of course, which he's rightly pointed out that TFF has gone.

I've got a Leeds supporting mate who was very pro-Monk originally but then turned so if I've put anything pro-Monk it's probably due to him. He's quite fickle though.

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Just now, Cannabis said:

Is that the same melt that rimmed Darren Randolph?

Nah he's the Liverpool / Ireland fan. I do actually respect his opinion most of the time but he comes out with some crap as well. Me and him will never ever agree on Mahrez. He can't stand him and I think he's class xD

Anyhow, as for Monk succeeding at Swansea...

8th in his first season. That's impressive and I can't knock that.

Sacked in his second season with the team 15th.

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I can't word how bad they were at home to us that day. It was one of the easiest wins we had that year. The fans had clearly turned and as Stan pointed out things were clearly unhealthy behind the scenes. I think the players turned on him.

It's worth considering while 15th doesn't sound bad, they finished 8th, 12th, 9th and 11th the years before, and their form there is utterly terrible, one win in eleven games and that was against one of the worst Premier League sides ever.

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  • The title was changed to Steve Cotterill Sacked by Birmingham City; Garry Monk Takes Over

Monk is one of those "honest" British managers who comes across well and it makes you think he's better than he is when things are going alright. I'm not well read on the circumstances behind each of his sackings but it doesn't happen as often as it has for him if you have something significant about you.

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5 hours ago, Dan said:

Nah he's the Liverpool / Ireland fan. I do actually respect his opinion most of the time but he comes out with some crap as well. Me and him will never ever agree on Mahrez. He can't stand him and I think he's class xD

Anyhow, as for Monk succeeding at Swansea...

8th in his first season. That's impressive and I can't knock that.

Sacked in his second season with the team 15th.

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I can't word how bad they were at home to us that day. It was one of the easiest wins we had that year. The fans had clearly turned and as Stan pointed out things were clearly unhealthy behind the scenes. I think the players turned on him.

It's worth considering while 15th doesn't sound bad, they finished 8th, 12th, 9th and 11th the years before, and their form there is utterly terrible, one win in eleven games and that was against one of the worst Premier League sides ever.

The side arguement he can always use is that this was the first managerial experience he had where things were not going his way, and he should have been allowed an opportunity to rectify things. 

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7 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said:

The side arguement he can always use is that this was the first managerial experience he had where things were not going his way, and he should have been allowed an opportunity to rectify things. 

As Stan said earlier in the thread though, I think it was more than on the pitch where Monk lost it at Swansea. I think the squad turned on him over the Nathan Dyer situation.

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3 minutes ago, Dan said:

As Stan said earlier in the thread though, I think it was more than on the pitch where Monk lost it at Swansea. I think the squad turned on him over the Nathan Dyer situation.

Im aware of that and I agree, but I still think he will always use the "I should have been given a chance to turn it around" card and owners of other clubs will agree with him. 

His abrupt sacking at 'Boro after a good result is rather telling. It seems very out of character for Steve Gibson to do such a thing.

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Garry Monk got us as close as we've been in years to challenging for promotion through a playoff place. Every other year, including this one, our horse has normally bolted. For 90% of the season, he had made us overachieve and surprise many. The final run in we stumbled and his character questioned.

But have to give respect to him. The criticism at him in this thread is not entirely fair, especially when he was in the running for manager of the year in the Football League. 

That said, he is a bit of a snake and not the knight in shining armour I thought he was and I'd love to see him end the season as a League One manager looking up at us than down.

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I don't think enough is being made in regards to how well this appointment seems to be working. Those defending Chris Coleman should be looking at how Monk has steadied and then turned this ship that seemed just as doomed.

I fancy them to be top half / pushing for the playoffs next season providing there's no major shake ups behind the scenes. 

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