Dave Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Surely the logical thing to do would have been to give him the same time? Shkodran Mustafi will not face any action from the Football Association for his goal celebration against Cardiff on Sunday. The defender celebrated his opening goal in Arsenal's 3-2 win by appearing to make an Albanian Eagle sign in solidarity to his team-mate Granit Xhaka. Xhaka has received criticism in Switzerland for his views about his family's roots. Both Xhaka and Xherdan Shaqiri were fined by FIFA for a similar celebration in a match against Serbia at the World Cup this season. The FA, however, has decided it will not launch disciplinary proceedings against Mustafi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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6666 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Xhaka & Shaqiri received the ban mainly because they did it against Serbia. Even then it was a bit ridiculous as it's national symbol rather than a gesture of hatred against anyone but showing Albanian pride is controversial when doing it against Serbia as they don't want to be reminded of their disgusting past (unless it's them doing something to show pride over their disgusting past). It's like if Germans took offence to the English wearing a poppy against them which they're unlikely to do but if they did, everyone here would say they're being crazy. In this case, there shouldn't have even been a debate. It was nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted September 5, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted September 5, 2018 Not this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 If I was Arsenal, I'd happily take a ban to avoid playing such a shocking excuse of a centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 18 hours ago, 6666 said: Xhaka & Shaqiri received the ban mainly because they did it against Serbia. Even then it was a bit ridiculous as it's national symbol rather than a gesture of hatred against anyone but showing Albanian pride is controversial when doing it against Serbia as they don't want to be reminded of their disgusting past (unless it's them doing something to show pride over their disgusting past). It's like if Germans took offence to the English wearing a poppy against them which they're unlikely to do but if they did, everyone here would say they're being crazy. In this case, there shouldn't have even been a debate. It was nothing. But the hand symbol has sitgma as a gesture of Albanian nationalism, whereas the poppy doesn't have the same connotation at all. They were also playing for another country and just had to provoke the Serbians. They knew it would illicit that reaction and that is why they did it. Also more than the English wear the poppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Spike said: But the hand symbol has sitgma as a gesture of Albanian nationalism, whereas the poppy doesn't have the same connotation at all. They were also playing for another country and just had to provoke the Serbians. They knew it would illicit that reaction and that is why they did it. Also more than the English wear the poppy. Sadly you're wrong there, the poppy is often hijacked as a symbol of English nationalism, nationalists love nothing more than exploiting death and invoking war dead especially. The furore over the likes of James McLean's thorougly honourable decision shows you the kind of people who embrace it. Similar to the kind of special cases burning their nikes in America at the moment, although not as funny. Not to say the poppy in and of itself is political, it isn't but neither is the Albanian Eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: Sadly you're wrong there, the poppy is often hijacked as a symbol of English nationalism, nationalists love nothing more than exploiting death. The furore over the likes of James McLean's thorougly honourable decision shows you the kind of people who embrace it. Similar to the kind of special cases burning their nikes in America at the moment, although not as funny. Tell them they are fucking morons for me. It is worn in Aus, NZ, and Canada as well. Trust the English to ruin something benign and solemn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I believe it was also worn in the USA at one point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 56 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: I believe it was also worn in the USA at one point? It's less common because Americans celebrate their wars by making Hollywood films where actors murder Germans en mass and single handily save the world from the evil Nazi and Tojo threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 On 06/09/2018 at 07:49, Spike said: It's less common because Americans celebrate their wars by making Hollywood films where actors murder Germans en mass and single handily save the world from the evil Nazi and Tojo threats. Canadians wear the poppy on Nov 11. A WW1 soldier wrote the poem "in Flanders fields" which inspired the use of poppies on Remembrance Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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