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Smiley Culture Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 They should scrap the competition in its entirety, everyone moaned before the controversial changes made last summer, it just heightened people's moaning. If they do keep the competition they should have rules for all, not rules for some like they had this year where Luton were fined for playing a certain number of their academy products, whereas Leicester (amongst others) played 'over-age' players and nothing was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted April 11, 2017 Administrator Share Posted April 11, 2017 56 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: They should scrap the competition in its entirety, everyone moaned before the controversial changes made last summer, it just heightened people's moaning. If they do keep the competition they should have rules for all, not rules for some like they had this year where Luton were fined for playing a certain number of their academy products, whereas Leicester (amongst others) played 'over-age' players and nothing was said. I found it a joke that Wasilewski and Hammond were allowed to play in this, especially when it's targeted and giving academy players and products a taste of experience at a higher level as opposed to just their own age-group league tournament. Equally found it a joke that the Football League have the audacity to fine clubs to the amount of £5000 for 'weakened' sides, despite lower league clubs not having the biggest squads and being required to play 50+ games in an already cramped season. Football League are a mess and unless the rules are relaxed on competition like this (as suggested in the article) then it needs to be scrapped or postponed. Fans clearly aren't interested in it. Stupid attendance figures like 300-400 people in a 10000-15000 capacity stadium is just embarrassing. I think changes have to be made in the League Cup competition as well. But that's a different conversation for a different day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toony Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 They shouldn't include the under-23 teams, just have it as they used to and use it as a cup competition for the lower league sides. It adds a bit more to the season and gives them a chance to win a domestic trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Toony said: They shouldn't include the under-23 teams, just have it as they used to and use it as a cup competition for the lower league sides. It adds a bit more to the season and gives them a chance to win a domestic trophy. Most teams think it's a massive inconvenience until they get to the last four of the competition. They may as well scrap it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toony Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Smiley Culture said: Most teams think it's a massive inconvenience until they get to the last four of the competition. They may as well scrap it. Same as the League Cup then, I think they need to keep it. Nobody complains when they get a day out at Wembley through it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Scrap the whole thing for reasons previously mentioned. Clubs in League Two cannot afford to bolster squads for needless games. Let alone risk being fined because somebody determines a certain side being weak. I understand they want Premier League clubs to expose players under the age of 23 to more competitive football at their current clubs but this is the wrong way of going about it. Everybody slates it but the way Chelsea have gone about it is the way to do it if you;ve got the resources to do so. They won the Under 19 version of the Champions League with a squad and allowed those players to learn a new way of playing football in Holland which should benefit most of them in the long run. It doesn't take a genius to recognise how Eric Dier has benefitted from growing as a player outside the Premier League bubble in Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, Toony said: Same as the League Cup then, I think they need to keep it. Nobody complains when they get a day out at Wembley through it! You can use that argument with the FA Cup as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Perhaps give the winner a Europa League spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 10 hours ago, HoneyNUFC said: Perhaps give the winner a Europa League spot People did used to say automatic entry to the Third Round of the FA Cup as a reward for winning the trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Keep it as is and then use it as a means to introduce U23 teams into the lower leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, HK85 said: Keep it as is and then use it as a means to introduce U23 teams into the lower leagues. Better luck next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: Better luck next time. For the betterment of this country it would be great to allow U23s into the pyramid. That PL2 isn't what these lads needs at that age and loans can go any way. You can't guarantee the player is being coached correctly, in the position their parent club want or that he will play. Keep them with their club but in L2/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 What evidence is there to suggest that it would help the 'betterment of this country'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Spain have it and they won the World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, HK85 said: For the betterment of this country it would be great to allow U23s into the pyramid. That PL2 isn't what these lads needs at that age and loans can go any way. You can't guarantee the player is being coached correctly, in the position their parent club want or that he will play. Keep them with their club but in L2/1. All our 'talents' are shite and/or overrated anyway. Big clubs don't even promote kids anyway so we should scrap academies so the big clubs can distribute that money saved amongst their highest earners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: All our 'talents' are shite and/or overrated anyway. Big clubs don't even promote kids anyway so we should scrap academies so the big clubs can distribute that money saved amongst their highest earners. Opportunities are scarce for these kids to play competitive league football unless a loan arises. The lower leagues should know their role in this country and allow B teams to compete in their league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig on the Wing Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/13/2017 at 2:26 PM, HK85 said: Opportunities are scarce for these kids to play competitive league football unless a loan arises. The lower leagues should know their role in this country and allow B teams to compete in their league. Jesus fucking wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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