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Only if you subscribe to moral objectivity is it not a luxury, and to subscribe to moral objectivity one must also adhere to or believe in a higher power that establishes said morality.

How isn't the choice not a luxury? You'd quite simply die or fall ill if our society couldn't supply you with alternatives to animal products. Luxury; the state of great comfort and extravagant living. It is nothing but a luxury, you can only live your healthy life because of the luxury. Trust me, if you were facing starvation, disease, and illness you wouldn't be pontificating on contributing towards animal cruelty. How is there a difference? They simply kill the animals as well, the road to the destination is simply worse.

Many humans have painful and deprived lives that would be improved if they had the luxury to afford animal products. What you're saying makes no sense. Are you saying that animals don't live in luxury or that ease of access to animal products isn't indicative of a luxurious and decadent society and/or culture? Humans come before animals, always (well of course there are exceptions), you cannot ethically tell a person with hunger pangs that they need to take better care of their animals when they themselves probably live an equally brutal life. When a culture or society has advanced to the point where animal welfare is a serious consideration then it's a culture that has advanced beyond the need for animal products; as it has become a luxury; not a necessity for survival. The squalid conditions of animal farming is due to the decadent nature of many nations. High animal yield is due to high crop yield, only societies with food to spare have high meat based diets, which is most western nations. Which leads to the self-actualisation of animal morality, only when the need for our own survival is removed do we care for the survival and treatment of animals.The ethics of treating animals correctly doesn't exist in a Moroccan goat-herding village. Choice is a luxury, we can choose to eat meat, or not to and live a healthy productive life. Most people don't have that choice.

How aren't animal products a sign of luxury then? It is often said when a society has progressed to the point of eating pork regularly, it has reached it peak in decadence. We are a decadent people and we have unlimited access to animal products that past humans would envy green. Animals products are often both a luxury and a necessity.

Animal cruelty not a luxury? Animal products are the most caloric dense foods outside of grains available to many people. A Filipino family can feed ducks in limited areas scraps and then use the fertilised eggs for greater nourishment than what was feed to the ducks; especially as the yield would be higher in tight confines than any sort of crop. A human doesn't need animal products, but for the most part they are reason why many people aren't dead or malnourished. For millions having animals they can be 'cruel' to is a luxury beyond imagination. Even in largely vegetarian societies like India bovine products are a necessity, from ghee to milk. In China where they literally eat anything that has a pulse meat is seen as great social status.

If Vegans had their way people in many countries would die. Imagine trying to live entirely on a plant based diet in Finland during the winter. What would a person eat? Pine needles?

Australia by nature has very little ozone. Skin cancer capital of the world for a reason

How I feel at bed time.

He isn't La Masia though? I thought he was on Barcelona B

And the best defender in England cost a third of that. Sometimes it happens. We've had this discussion at least twice before

@SirBalonMate Umtiti wasn't a 'find'. I bloody well knew he'd be a star five years ago, where is my scouting job!? A good deal reggardless

Well I could never cheat really, I think that'd be the only circumstance I could forgive myself. Don't see the point in a relationship if one person is forging another relationship in secret.

Don't get me wrong; if a an attractive bird is willing, I'm willing but maybe I'm just scared of STDs. Not that I can speak much from experience given that whole tied down situation. Though to be quite honest, I would probably bang a hooker or two if the lads threw me a 'proper stag' party.

It's diabetes, poor lass never stood a chance. Fell into a diabetic coma at 8. Never did get the appeal of one nighters. Gotta know a bird a bit before I think about doodling her. Speaking of; there are several girls at work that I wouldn't mind doing the scooby-do shaggy with. 24 in February

I feel like I'm going to have a heart-attack from the anxiety. The Mrs. wants a kid, or at least she thinks she does, I think it's more that she doesn't want to wait much longer because her health won't set up the easier pregnancy. I'm only 24 and I'm not sure I can cut it right now. I think I'd feel different if we owned a house, I had a good job and so did she.

Moses can beat a man but can't cross. Zappacosta can't beat a man but can cross. Cruelty.

PATHETIC that FARCELONA would spend money on another player instead of investing in La Masia. HYPOCRITCAL cules, smh. Thought I'd get in before @Teso dos Bichos

Cringe

Aye, maybe LVG would not have won the trophies but the younger players would have developed past what they are now. IT would have been about Martial and Rashford developing and not spunking cash on Lukaku (donkey, LVG would HATE him) and Ibrahimovic.

Some people in the south are very, very, well meaning and kind but since they live in a different world to the rest of us! I remember and old southern fella asked my wife 'I don't mean to be presumptuous but Miss Rachel, are you of Chinese ancestry?' They very much take a sense of pride in being able to trace their family lineage.

Yeah, I have all those skills (as if it's hard), could probably do bar tending as well but as the case in Sydney the gubment are trying to rape those industries to death. No tips either. Tips can turn a shite day into a bloody payday.

That post is so stereotypical Sounds like something from Football Manager yeah mate, inside sources, me da's uncle's bestfriend's dentist works with a bloke that knows the physio of Liverpool's kitman.