Cricket

[Azeem]

28 minutes ago, Eco said:

Yeah, sport still doesn't make sense to me. 

I see this on the scoreboard - Pakistan 181/3 (18.2 ov) , does that mean they are winning 181 -3 ?

204/4 (20 overs) 

The left side of the slash '/' means the total runs a team scores and the right side means the batters that got out, so this means we scored 204 runs while we lost four batsmen, and if a team loses 10 batters then their innings is over like in baseball if three batters are out.

In baseball a pitcher keeps on pitching for the whole innings or match until he is replaced right ? Not in Cricket, after bowling six bowls the bowler must be replaced with another bowler. Those six balls are called an over. Bowler 'A' bowls six balls to complete an over now he can't bowl the next six balls/over, Bowler 'B' will come to bowl next six balls.

 

So 20 overs means that there will be total 120 balls bowled after which next teams innings will start

 

Edited June 12, 2018 by Devon Von Devon

[Eco]

14 minutes ago, Devon Von Devon said:

204/4 (20 overs) 

The left side of the slash '/' means the total runs a team scores and the right side means the batters that got out, so this means we scored 204 runs while we lost four batsmen, and if a team loses 10 batters then their innings is over like in baseball if three batters are out.

In baseball a pitcher keeps on pitching for the whole innings or match until he is replaced right ? Not in Cricket, after bowling six bowls the bowler must be replaced with another bowler. Those six balls are called an over. Bowler 'A' bowls six balls to complete an over now he can't bowl the next six balls/over, Bowler 'B' will come to bowl next six balls.

 

So 20 overs means that there will be total 120 balls bowled after which next teams innings will start

 

That actually makes some sense. 

So, the inning is over IF 10 batters get out OR if 120 balls are bowled? 

[Azeem]

12 minutes ago, Eco said:

That actually makes some sense. 

Of course it does, we are not idiots who follow this sport 

So, the inning is over IF 10 batters get out OR if 120 balls are bowled? 

Yes ! 

Now Scotland has to score 205 runs in 120 balls and we have to make sure that we get their ten batsmen out before they score 205 runs.

Edited June 12, 2018 by Devon Von Devon

[Eco]

Just now, Devon Von Devon said:

Yes ! 

Now Scotland has to score 205 runs in 120 balls without and we have to make sure that we get their tens batsmen out before they score 205 runs.

Is 250 a lot ? 

[Stan]

@Eco wait til we have to explain what the Duckworth-Lewis method is  

[Azeem]

13 minutes ago, Eco said:

Is 250 a lot ? 

You mean 205.

How many ways you can score runs in baseball ? either by completing all the bases or hitting a home run but both ways will get you '1' run.

In Cricket, getting runs is similar.

After hitting the ball if you get to the other side of the pitch you will get one run its like getting from 1st base to 2nd in baseball.

Like homerun if you hit the ball over the boundary in cricket then you will get 'six' runs.

In baseball if the balls takes a bounce and crosses the boundary then the batter gets a free pass to the next base right ? In Cricket if the ball touches the ground and crosses the boundary then you get 'four' runs.

[Spike]

Fuck me dead, it isn't going to be half a snorefest watching Australia play without Smith's spastic batting technique for this upcoming test series against Poms.

[Asura]

12 hours ago, Eco said:

That actually makes some sense. 

So, the inning is over IF 10 batters get out OR if 120 balls are bowled? 

Correct for a T20 format. In a one day format there are 50 overs per inning (per team) so that means 300 balls or 10 batsmen

And in test cricket, you play for 5 days at an average of 90 overs per day, so total of about 450 overs for 4 innings (two innings per team). 

[Asura]

 

Any disagreements on this?

Personally as a huge Dravid fan, I would love to have him at number three but at the same time I dont think its a shame to lose the spot to Punter. I would have taken out one of the spinners and replace him with either Ambrose, Walsh or Waqar Younis.

Also Gilly out and Sanga In as keeper.

[Stan]

was also gonna mention Ambrose and Walsh before I got to reading your bit. How they've missed out is beyond me!

Maybe it's because my best memories of him are in the ODI format but didn't expect Sehwag there to open! Maybe thought Cook or Langer would be there instead. 

Would probably be happier if, like you say, Dravid was there too or Sangakkara in for Gilchrist. There's maybe even a shout for Chanderpaul to be in there somewhere too.

[Devil-Dick Willie]

Gilly out is the obvious one. Sanga or De Villiers in there. Steyn was a better bowler than Mcgrath as well. If you don't want a second spinner I'd have glenn in tho.The biggest omission is biff. The greatest test captain of all time and the 2nd best opening batsman I've ever seen after Haydos. My line up

Hayden, Smith(c), Ponting, Tendulkar, Lara, Kallis, Sanga, Akram, Steyn, Warne, Mcgrath

 

[Azeem]

Waqar Younis > Wasim Akram

Rahul Dravid > Tendulkar

Abdul Qadir > Warne

Srinath = underrated bowler of all time

Ajmal > Naraine + Ashvin

Ambrose + Walsh >= Waqar + Wasim

Garry Sobers > Imran Khan > Ian Bothom > Richard Hadlle > Kapel Dev

Pakistan 1999 World Cup squad = only second to Australia's golden generation note[1]

Afridi = ∞

 

 

1. By that i mean in the modern game not including the Windies in the 70s 80s.

Edited June 16, 2018 by Devon Von Devon

[Paulh_85]

England break their own ODI record and score 481 runs in 50 overs.

 

Is it a sign that the delicate balance between bat and ball has tipped significantly to the former?

Or is this the worst Australian team in decades?

 

The answer probably lies somewhere in the middle, but if you needed a reminder of just how "on the day" one day cricket can be its worth remembering that England lost to Scotland last week

[Azeem]

Underappreciated by his own nation despite his good record. Surely he is flawed but every man is. Still would be an asset in any ODI team. Ahead of his times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please come back Ricky Pointing

 

[Stan]

On 20/06/2018 at 10:57, Paulh_85 said:

England break their own ODI record and score 481 runs in 50 overs.

 

Is it a sign that the delicate balance between bat and ball has tipped significantly to the former?

Or is this the worst Australian team in decades?

 

The answer probably lies somewhere in the middle, but if you needed a reminder of just how "on the day" one day cricket can be its worth remembering that England lost to Scotland last week

Australia are actually horrendously bad right now to be fair. Both physically and mentally they seem shot. England are a great ODI team despite the Scotland loss. They've got big hitters and effective bowlers. Australia seem like they just need a break from cricket with so much attention on them for what happened with Smith, Bancroft and Warner as well as how this ODI series has gone. 

[Paulh_85]

2 hours ago, Stan said:

Australia are actually horrendously bad right now to be fair. Both physically and mentally they seem shot. England are a great ODI team despite the Scotland loss. They've got big hitters and effective bowlers. Australia seem like they just need a break from cricket with so much attention on them for what happened with Smith, Bancroft and Warner as well as how this ODI series has gone. 

Yeah agree but have to say well done to England for keeping their foot on the throats of the Aussies, theres been many a bashing handed out in the other direction over the years with them caring little about the state of English cricket.

[Azeem]

 Made that 180+ chase look so easy despite losing two early wickets. 

[Azeem]

 

[Stan]

Went to watch England vs India at Trent Bridge yesterday. Good atmosphere sitting with Bharat Army (equivalent of Barmy Army for England). 

Good game of cricket too although expected England to get several more runs. India won with ease in the end. Rohit Sharma is different level sometimes. Love watching him bad. Yadav getting 6-25 is ridiculous too. 

Met Yadav, Chahal and Shreyas Iyer after the game in a restaurant as well. Ended up going to casino with them. They're whipping out £50 notes and I'm sitting there with my fivers

Good fun though, they spent time with us which not many players would do. 

[The Artful Dodger]

10 hours ago, Stan said:

Went to watch England vs India at Trent Bridge yesterday. Good atmosphere sitting with Bharat Army (equivalent of Barmy Army for England). 

Good game of cricket too although expected England to get several more runs. India won with ease in the end. Rohit Sharma is different level sometimes. Love watching him bad. Yadav getting 6-25 is ridiculous too. 

Met Yadav, Chahal and Shreyas Iyer after the game in a restaurant as well. Ended up going to casino with them. They're whipping out £50 notes and I'm sitting there with my fivers

Good fun though, they spent time with us which not many players would do. 

Did you tell them Test Cricket is the only real cricket?

[Stan]

52 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Did you tell them Test Cricket is the only real cricket?

 

I did not, mate.

[Azeem]

Another one of our opener makes 190+ score against a mediocre team.. 

[Azeem]

Am i the only one with the opinion that the coming World Cup will be the most open and exciting tournament in recent times ?

Australia is nowhere near their past teams and adding the controversies but a wounded tiger is even more dangerous. 

England has a great ODI side and will be huge bottlejob if this team doesnt wins a silverware. Considering England's history at international sporting events despite all the media hype around them its still 50/50.

Cant really find any fault in this Indian team they are the favorites alongside England. What can hurt them ? Egos and feuds between big players and staff if something goes wrong ?

South Africa will be South Africa. Top side through out the cricketing season but turns average during ICC events. Will it be this time ?

We are the opposite of South Africa but its very unlikely we can repeat our perfomance from the CT still we have a great record in England and you can never rule out our unpredictablity factor.

New Zealand isn't really the dark horse like last time but they are a side to cause a shock or two.

Windies can have a title contender side if they can get their contract issues sorted.

Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are opposite of each other right now. The former being a minnow punching above their wieghts and people expecting so little from Sri Lanka when they can deliver so much more.

 

 

[Stan]

@Devon Von Devon 

Going to a few games next summer including India vs Pakistan at Old Trafford.

I think it's between England and India as to who comes out on top.

England's batting line-up is ridiculous and we saw recently how much spin can play a part if you have someone decent. England have about 5 or 6 big hitters and you only need a few of them to hit some form and you'll be looking at a challenging score to chase (or you need to set one to make it challenging for them) - the talent and ability of Buttler, Stokes, Bairstow, Hales, Roy, Morgan and even Root is something most teams would love. And then you have players like Ali who'll happily smack you around the ground if need be.

You mention it too but I wouldn't rule out Pakistan unless there's some controversy to put you off - the Champions Trophy really put you back in the limelight and the young squad you have would be even more prepared for next summer you'd think so I wouldn't write you off just yet.

[Azeem]

@Stan You are at every big match are tickets easy to get or you have your connections ?