Administrator Stan Posted June 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted June 20, 2021 VS Kick-off 17.00 (BST) Venue - Arena Nationale, Bucharest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 I hope both these sides come out looking for a win, instead of settling for a draw(which would be enough for both of them to advance). I personally can't see Ukraine losing. The attacking skills of Yaremchuk, Yarmolenko, Malinovskyi, Shaparenko and Zinchenko, should breach the Austrian defence at some point. The fullbacks Mykolenko and Karavayev also love to bomb down the flanks and assist the attack. I just think the Ukrainians will give the Austrians a lot of headaches, if they search for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted June 20, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Michael said: I hope both these sides come out looking for a win, instead of settling for a draw(which would be enough for both of them to advance). I personally can't see Ukraine losing. The attacking skills of Yaremchuk, Yarmolenko, Malinovskyi, Shaparenko and Zinchenko, should breach the Austrian defence at some point. The fullbacks Mykolenko and Karavayev also love to bomb down the flanks and assist the attack. I just think the Ukrainians will give the Austrians a lot of headaches, if they search for the win. I'd be amazed if either settle for a draw - like you say both need to win to secure 2nd place as they don't even know if they will have enough to qualify if finishing 3rd. It's too risky I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 20, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 20, 2021 If Austria win, they face Italy in the next round. If Austria lose, they are out. If it's a draw, there's a good chance they qualify and face the winner of Group E or Group F (I think?) I don't think Austria will go all-in and risk losing. Most likely another boring display of Foda's defensive, cowardly football. Although Arnautovic is supposed to start tomorrow, so that gives me some hope... Hopefully the players will be motivated by the chance to make it into the knockout rounds for the first time in 67 years and will push for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, nudge said: If Austria win, they face Italy in the next round. If Austria lose, they are out. If it's a draw, there's a good chance they qualify and face the winner of Group E or Group F (I think?) I don't think Austria will go all-in and risk losing. Most likely another boring display of Foda's defensive, cowardly football. Although Arnautovic is supposed to start tomorrow, so that gives me some hope... Hopefully the players will be motivated by the chance to make it into the knockout rounds for the first time in 67 years and will push for the win. Are you from Austria Nudge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 20, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Devil said: Are you from Austria Nudge? No, there are some very distant links in the family, but nothing significant enough. So just a sympathiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, Stan said: I'd be amazed if either settle for a draw - like you say both need to win to secure 2nd place as they don't even know if they will have enough to qualify if finishing 3rd. It's too risky I think. Ukraine don't actually need to win to finish in 2nd place, a draw would be enough to see Ukraine secure 2nd position. While a draw would very likely see Austria through as well, even though they would finish in third place. But yeah, a draw would still be kind of risky for Austria, although getting 4 points should see most teams through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted June 20, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, Michael said: Ukraine don't actually need to win to finish in 2nd place, a draw would be enough to see Ukraine secure 2nd position. While a draw would very likely see Austria through as well, even though they would finish in third place. But yeah, a draw would still be kind of risky for Austria, although getting 4 points should see most teams through. True. Ukraine don't strike me as the kind of team to sit back for a draw though. Momentum can be key in tournaments - win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Austria probably going for a draw. Second spot is a game with Italy so not much of a great outlook for Austria getting to the knockout stages is a big success if they lose, they need to keep it close for any chance of claiming a best third place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 21, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2021 Ulmer is on the bench and it seems Alaba starts in LB with Grillitsch in midfield! Looks like a 4-3-2-1 Bachmann - Alaba, Hinteregger, Dragovic, Lainer - Grillitsch, Schlager, Laimer - Sabitzer, Baumgartner - Arnautovic. Finally, a lineup that inspires hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, nudge said: Ulmer is on the bench and it seems Alaba starts in LB with Grillitsch in midfield! Looks like a 4-3-2-1 Bachmann - Alaba, Hinteregger, Dragovic, Lainer - Grillitsch, Schlager, Laimer - Sabitzer, Baumgartner - Arnautovic. Finally, a lineup that inspires hope. I have the feeling that they will lose this game and also fall out of the best third place teams too. hope I’m wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted June 21, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 21, 2021 Finally Alaba away from CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 21, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, The Käiser said: I have the feeling that they will lose this game and also fall out of the best third place teams too. hope I’m wrong I'm cautiously optimistic, especially after seeing the lineup... 2-1 for Austria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, nudge said: Ulmer is on the bench and it seems Alaba starts in LB with Grillitsch in midfield! Looks like a 4-3-2-1 Bachmann - Alaba, Hinteregger, Dragovic, Lainer - Grillitsch, Schlager, Laimer - Sabitzer, Baumgartner - Arnautovic. Finally, a lineup that inspires hope. I've just seen the line-ups and it seems like Foda has made very sensible changes to the side. No "has been" Ulmer in the starting 11 and Alaba starts at fullback. Indeed, it is finally a sensible and strong line-up for the Austrians. With Arnautovic back, that should boost the side as well. This looks a pretty strong line-up, I was quite optimistic of a Ukraine win before the game, but I think it might be a much harder task now. Ukraine have made only one change from their last match as they have brought back Sydorchuk in place of Stepanenko. I find this a bit surprising given that Stepanenko had an excellent game against the Macedonians. Other than that, the Ukrainian lineup looks very strong, despite the absence of Zubkov. Shaparenko will start in midfield for the second game running, hopefully he can play as well against the Austrians as he did against the Macedonians. But yeah, looking at the line-ups of both sides, this should be a very tough game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted June 21, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2021 If this was specifically anybody but Austria I think they'd play out a disgrace of a 0-0. That said - I can totally see a legitimate draw as well, it is a well balanced fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 21, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2021 I didn't realise Shevchenko was the manager of Ukraine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, nudge said: I didn't realise Shevchenko was the manager of Ukraine! Where have you been the last 5 years? Clearly not watching Ukraine play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 21, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Michael said: Where have you been the last 5 years? Clearly not watching Ukraine play. Clearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 End to end already, it looks like there will be goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 21, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Michael said: End to end already, it looks like there will be goals. Yeah looks promising so far, although both teams keep making annoying mistakes and playing misplaced passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Austria score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 21, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2021 Jaaaaaaa! Baumgartner scores, 1-0 for Austria! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted June 21, 2021 Moderator Share Posted June 21, 2021 Austria look much better than in the previous matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 21, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tommy said: Austria look much better than in the previous matches. What a difference player selection and formation makes, huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montybhopa Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Im baffled at the defensive tactics from Ukraine. Just get a win and get on with it, why play for a draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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