Dave Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Nigel Pearson to return? Bridges seem mended given he works for the owners in Belgium.
Administrator Stan Posted October 17, 2017 Administrator Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Aaroncpfc said: Nigel Pearson to return? Bridges seem mended given he works for the owners in Belgium. apparently this is categorically out of the question.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 17, 2017 Subscriber Posted October 17, 2017 It's too soon. I think Pearson being at Leuven means that it isn't impossible in the future but they've only just bought them, it'd be a shitty move to go and send their new manager with 4 wins on the bounce away from the club almost immediately. If we go down I think he'll be back.
Honey Honey Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Could do a swap deal involving Shakespeare.
Panna King Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 If Koeman gets sacked he has already got a job waiting for him, the Dutch National team, I think the talk of Barcelona really affected him during the summer but anyway he will be back to winning ways at the weekend when they face an awful Arsenal team who have lost every game away from home this season in the league.
Honey Honey Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 I don't think Koeman will be sacked, he'll be given the January transfer window.
Administrator Stan Posted October 18, 2017 Administrator Posted October 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said: I don't think Koeman will be sacked, he'll be given the January transfer window. then sacked in February.
Panna King Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Barkley will be gone in Jan, then they will use that money for a striker.
HK85 Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, VanPaddy said: If Koeman gets sacked he has already got a job waiting for him, the Dutch National team, I think the talk of Barcelona really affected him during the summer but anyway he will be back to winning ways at the weekend when they face an awful Arsenal team who have lost every game away from home this season in the league. Fingers crossed he'll be back home by the end of the month.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted October 19, 2017 Author Subscriber Posted October 19, 2017 Due to his links to the Leicester job, Dyche is now 3/1 in the "next manager to leave his post" market. This has skewed the odds so Koeman is now 4/7. Guardiola and Pochettino now have the safest jobs at 100/1 next to leave.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 19, 2017 Subscriber Posted October 19, 2017 Still don't think Dyche will come to us.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted October 20, 2017 Author Subscriber Posted October 20, 2017 Bilic now 2/9 favourite. If West Ham kick him out that makes yet another club more proactive and less willing to accept failure than us.
Dave Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 I'm quite surprised that fans of clubs are happy to encourage the sacking of their managers when the alternatives are Chris Coleman and Alan Pardew. This country is absolutely fucked.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted October 22, 2017 Author Subscriber Posted October 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Aaroncpfc said: I'm quite surprised that fans of clubs are happy to encourage the sacking of their managers when the alternatives are Chris Coleman and Alan Pardew. This country is absolutely fucked. Pardew, Coleman, Allardyce are all appropriate replacements at Stoke and West Ham. For my club's situation we are so far below an acceptable level at the moment that I'd genuinely take a number of 'sick in my mouth' candidates to replace Koeman just to see the players go onto the pitch looking as if they know their jobs and they aren't terrified of the ball. People don't seem to understand that we look significantly worse now than we did even when Martinez was a dead man walking.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 22, 2017 Subscriber Posted October 22, 2017 On 10/20/2017 at 10:30 PM, RandoEFC said: Bilic now 2/9 favourite. If West Ham kick him out that makes yet another club more proactive and less willing to accept failure than us. Now that was the time to back Koeman. I almost wonder if Hughes is worth a bet, the odds seem fixated on those two. I had a tenner on Shakespeare at 10/1 on Friday 14th. Didn't expect it to pay out that quickly.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 22, 2017 Subscriber Posted October 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Aaroncpfc said: I'm quite surprised that fans of clubs are happy to encourage the sacking of their managers when the alternatives are Chris Coleman and Alan Pardew. This country is absolutely fucked. It also surprises me that so many are happy to slam their manager yet not those above the manager. Think that's a bit different with us though now. Our fans have completely turned on our director of football and it's about time too. He's got away with it while Ranieri and Shakespeare both got the boot.
Dave Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Dan said: It also surprises me that so many are happy to slam their manager yet not those above the manager. Think that's a bit different with us though now. Our fans have completely turned on our director of football and it's about time too. He's got away with it while Ranieri and Shakespeare both got the boot. This is the exact movement needed. My exact reaction when Shakespeare lost his job was what happened to the cunt who fucked up with Silva and Drinkwater, and you and Stan replied amicably which half restored my faith in football fans. The attitude with Sky, BT and Talksport is pathetic. It's a pitch fork invasion every week on the worst performing manager. If Stoke and Bournemouth had drawn and Everton had won Jim White would be asking "does Klopp deserve the sack?" In three different sentence forms on various media platforms repeatedly. When people should be looking at who the fuck are the retards that haven't figured out you need two players in every position.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted October 22, 2017 Author Subscriber Posted October 22, 2017 42 minutes ago, Aaroncpfc said: This is the exact movement needed. My exact reaction when Shakespeare lost his job was what happened to the cunt who fucked up with Silva and Drinkwater, and you and Stan replied amicably which half restored my faith in football fans. The attitude with Sky, BT and Talksport is pathetic. It's a pitch fork invasion every week on the worst performing manager. If Stoke and Bournemouth had drawn and Everton had won Jim White would be asking "does Klopp deserve the sack?" In three different sentence forms on various media platforms repeatedly. When people should be looking at who the fuck are the retards that haven't figured out you need two players in every position. The thing is people do hound the boards and directors but only to an extent because those people don't care and aren't as easy to get rid of as managers.
Dave Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: The thing is people do hound the boards and directors but only to an extent because those people don't care and aren't as easy to get rid of as managers. Everton are a very rare occurance whereby your owner has good intentions, has employed Steve Walsh to oversee transfers, and has a great policy from the under 23 and below. There's no fault in his policy. If he sacks a manager there's no reason to not trust him.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted October 22, 2017 Author Subscriber Posted October 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, Aaroncpfc said: Everton are a very rare occurance whereby your owner has good intentions, has employed Steve Walsh to oversee transfers, and has a great policy from the under 23 and below. There's no fault in his policy. If he sacks a manager there's no reason to not trust him. That's not what I mean. I meant in terms of people upstairs being held accountable. Our fans were very vocal against Kenwright for many years for his perceived poor running of the club and more recently criticising Walsh and the board for not getting the striker we needed. However, there's much more traction in the anti-Koeman movement because people know that he can actually get sacked whereas most of the board can't even if they share the responsibility for the situation we're in.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 22, 2017 Subscriber Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Aaroncpfc said: This is the exact movement needed. My exact reaction when Shakespeare lost his job was what happened to the cunt who fucked up with Silva and Drinkwater, and you and Stan replied amicably which half restored my faith in football fans. The attitude with Sky, BT and Talksport is pathetic. It's a pitch fork invasion every week on the worst performing manager. If Stoke and Bournemouth had drawn and Everton had won Jim White would be asking "does Klopp deserve the sack?" In three different sentence forms on various media platforms repeatedly. When people should be looking at who the fuck are the retards that haven't figured out you need two players in every position. Completely agree and think the whole thing is dumbed down beyond belief. It's a vicious cycle which slowly but surely lowers standards. I don't like misplaced accountability and that's exactly what is happening at Leicester at the minute. Rudkin should've gone a long time ago, January 2017 for me was the final straw. I can't sit there and not make a fuss about him being the man who is not only allowed to hang another manager out to dry, but then be the one who tells him he's sacked. Managers are too often the fall guy now. You look at clubs like Sunderland, Villa etc... and realise that those clubs ultimately had fundamental issues behind the scenes. They are bigger problems than any manager and they are ultimately what will hold clubs like us and West Ham back. Newcastle have similar issues but luckily for them they have a manager in Benitez who is patching up those problems by delivering results. What we did two years ago was incredible, but even more incredible when you consider how shoddily directionless we've been since some point during that year. I'll just forever be thankful that it didn't kick in until the title was already there.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted October 22, 2017 Author Subscriber Posted October 22, 2017 What is ridiculous is how the majority of football club owners have made their billions in business through being extremely clever people who know what they can do themselves but also know the value of bringing in people to their team from top to bottom that specialise in being able to maximise resources and deliver the right expertise to be successful. Then they take over football clubs and either think they know enough about it to make all of the key decisions themselves or delegate the running of the club to other business bods that have no expertise related to football. Tony Fernandes was one of the worst for me as he made a fortune with his airlines and became one of the richest men in the world then was stupid enough to completely mismanage both his Formula 1 team and his investment in QPR. Surely when you pump all that money into a football club you make sure it doesn't go to waste by surrounding yourself with people who know how football clubs should be run, the risks involved with things like changing the wage structure massively and trying to buy or build new stadiums and dealing with agents etc so that you don't have to make uninformed decisions. It just completely baffles me how often people with clearly great business sense are utterly incompetent at applying the same logic to running a football club.
Administrator Stan Posted October 22, 2017 Administrator Posted October 22, 2017 Some YouTuber on Twitter seems to be convinced that he's been told some info by an internal source that Koeman has been sacked today after a meeting with Moshiri and Walsh and having a massive go at Walsh in the process.
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