Formula One - General Chat

[Stan]

4 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said:

As much as the commentators are waxing lyrical about the overtakes from Ricciardo, are we all forgetting that the tyres basically made the others drivers defenceless? When you’ve got that much grip in the bag, you’re laughing.

YES PHIL. 

But it's significant because you can tell the quality of the drivers when you see Verstappen nearly causing 2 incidents and Ricciardo sailing clean through. 

Plus Hamilton should've pitted during the safety car. Not sure why they didn't and we may not be having this discussion if they did!

 

[God is Haaland]

Just now, nudge said:

Yes, but once again poor strategy by Merc, they should have pitted Hamilton behind Verstappen... 

Was he behind Verstappen before Verstappen's pitstop?

[Stan]

'sometimes you gotta lick the stamp and send it' - Daniel Ricciardo.

 

[RandoEFC+]

Wow. After sleeping through much of the first half of the race I'm glad the second half came alive.

Danny Ric 🔥.

Bottas drove well, could easily have won that after holding Vettel off but for the safety car. Hamilton was beaten fair and square by him this weekend.

Vettel very unlucky. Kimi did okay and was quick but doesn't have the killer instinct to make key overtakes these days.

The Red Bulls looked like they were in a different formula with the stronger tyres. One of their drivers successfully took the candy from the baby but Max Maldonado struck again and ruined his and Vettels race. After the safety car he was actually just in front of his race winning team mate.

Championship should be interesting at this rate.

[Stan]

Just now, RandoEFC said:

Wow. After sleeping through much of the first half of the race I'm glad the second half came alive.

Danny Ric 🔥.

Bottas drove well, could easily have won that after holding Vettel off but for the safety car. Hamilton was beaten fair and square by him this weekend.

Vettel very unlucky. Kimi did okay and was quick but doesn't have the killer instinct to make key overtakes these days.

The Red Bulls looked like they were in a different formula with the stronger tyres. One of their drivers successfully took the candy from the baby but Max Maldonado struck again and ruined his and Vettels race. After the safety car he was actually just in front of his race winning team mate.

Championship should be interesting at this rate.

thought this, too. nice to have a legit 3rd team involved in the title race, not just a 2-horse race.

[God is Haaland]

Ferrari's strategy was so bad. Bottas was 3.2s behind Vettel and Ferrari allowed to Mercedes to make an undercut.

[nudge]

8 minutes ago, BartraPique1932 said:

Was he behind Verstappen before Verstappen's pitstop?

Yes, Verstappen was P3, Hamilton P4 just before the safety car!

[God is Haaland]

Hello comrades.

[God is Haaland]

4 minutes ago, Cannabis said:

Yes Max 

In the RTL post race interview Max admitted it was his fault and he was close to tears. Do you think he'll change?

[Tommy]

1 hour ago, BartraPique1932 said:

Hello comrades.

Even copied the caption from reddit, that's just low effort

 

Anyway, something needs to be done about Verstappen. 3 times in a row he ruined his own race, and not just his own. 

[nudge]

Verstappen is still a young kid, just 20 years old, also missed on a few seasons in GP2 and GP3 since he got promoted so early, and in addition, he does not have the best genetic predispositions when it comes to temperament and anger management  I personally love aggressive driving style, he just needs to learn to keep his cool and be more patient. If he manages that, he'll be a heck of a driver in a few years. Taking responsibility for his action after the race today is a good sign, hope he learns from this, would love to see someone as ruthless as him but with much better decision making on track.

[Stan]

41 minutes ago, nudge said:

Verstappen is still a young kid, just 20 years old, also missed on a few seasons in GP2 and GP3 since he got promoted so early, and in addition, he does not have the best genetic predispositions when it comes to temperament and anger management  I personally love aggressive driving style, he just needs to learn to keep his cool and be more patient. If he manages that, he'll be a heck of a driver in a few years. Taking responsibility for his action after the race today is a good sign, hope he learns from this, would love to see someone as ruthless as him but with much better decision making on track.

agree on both parts. 

I like aggressive driving and courageous, brave driving but it's not always about being aggressive all the time. There's a time and a place for it and that's what separates the good from the great. As you say, age is on his side because he can learn to be aggressive and reap the rewards for it, as opposed to causing incidents and/or controversy.

 

[Tommy]

47 minutes ago, nudge said:

Taking responsibility for his action after the race today is a good sign

I was very surprised when I heard about this. He almost had tears in his eyes when he talked about it. Definitely a good sign, and a completely new side of him

[DeadLinesman]

We’ll be having this same conversation next year and the year after though. He’ll still be young at 22, but have 5 seasons behind him. When do you stop blaming age and just start calling someone a numpty. Agreed it’s a positive he’s taking full responsibility though.

[nudge]

8 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said:

We’ll be having this same conversation next year and the year after though. He’ll still be young at 22, but have 5 seasons behind him. When do you stop blaming age and just start calling someone a numpty. Agreed it’s a positive he’s taking full responsibility though.

Maybe, maybe not. The number of races under one's belt is of course important and he's not a rookie anymore, but it's not a guarantee for maturity either, especially with all the media hype around him... If he realises that he only puts himself at a disadvantage with his actions, he's still young enough to turn it around. Whether or not Max manages to develop into a more level-headed driver is anyone's guess at this point; knowing his father, it's also easy to understand why people are having doubts haha, but I'm still not writing him off. 

[God is Haaland]

2 hours ago, nudge said:

Verstappen is still a young kid, just 20 years old, also missed on a few seasons in GP2 and GP3 since he got promoted so early, and in addition, he does not have the best genetic predispositions when it comes to temperament and anger management  I personally love aggressive driving style, he just needs to learn to keep his cool and be more patient. If he manages that, he'll be a heck of a driver in a few years. Taking responsibility for his action after the race today is a good sign, hope he learns from this, would love to see someone as ruthless as him but with much better decision making on track.

How to be aggressive and a boss

 

Edited April 15, 2018 by BartraPique1932

[nudge]

3 minutes ago, BartraPique1932 said:

How to be aggressive and a boss

Yeah, and quite a few moments in his career where he was too aggressive that didn't end well, too  

Senna and Schumi were ruthless,  and way too much at times. Hamilton was accused of being too aggressive when overtaking in the past. Vettel lost his cool numerous times. Same with Alonso. The difference is learning to keep it under control and take calculated risks, a lot of which does come with maturity. 

[Tommy]

Hello darkness my old friend...

[Stan]

 

[Stan]

 

[God is Haaland]

[Tommy]

Here it is :

Man, Max really is one cocky son of a bitch. Even his engineer told him to settle down. 

[Stan]

22 minutes ago, Tommy said:

 

Man, Max really is one cocky son of a bitch. Even his engineer told him to settle down. 

love these  

I remember hearing the Magnussen one on Lap 33 and instantly hearing the embarrassment in his engineer's voice  

[Tommy]

And you gotta feel sorry for the Toro Rosso guys. Clearly a miscommunication. Gasly thought Hartley will let him pass, because the team apparently told him he'd do that, and Hartley didn't get the memo. 

[God is Haaland]

16 hours ago, Tommy said:

And you gotta feel sorry for the Toro Rosso guys. Clearly a miscommunication. Gasly thought Hartley will let him pass, because the team apparently told him he'd do that, and Hartley didn't get the memo. 

They were 19th and 20th anyway.