LFCMike Posted Monday at 13:22 Posted Monday at 13:22 5 hours ago, Stan said: @Dr. Gonzo I notice there wasn't much criticism of the ref with the Nunez incident He was booked for a foul that was a bookable offence so I've no idea what you're on about 1 Quote
Administrator Stan Posted Monday at 13:39 Author Administrator Posted Monday at 13:39 16 minutes ago, LFCMike said: He was booked for a foul that was a bookable offence so I've no idea what you're on about The one where he smashed De Ligt in the face with his shoulder? Literally looks at him and charges at him. Was he booked for that? In my opinion it should have been a red. If it happens on a Liverpool player I think you'd all be angered. Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted Monday at 13:53 Subscriber Posted Monday at 13:53 It's not a stonewall red card but the way football's gone now, if the Man Utd player had screamed and rolled around a bit more and they'd surrounded the ref then they probably could have got him sent off. One of those fouls that wouldn't even be discussed as a potential red card 5 years ago but now is borderline enough that VAR doesn't overturn it either way. Football gets worse and worse every year, certainly in the Premier League. The slow creep of players diving more because they're actively rewarded for it, penalties being given for the slightest of accidental handballs that would never be given as free kicks in midfield, players getting red cards for something mildly aggressive that would barely have got them a booking a few years ago, penalties being given because defenders didn't dislocate their neck to prevent themselves from brushing their opponent on the ear after losing a header, players getting sent off because they squared up to someone and the other guy started crying and rolling on the floor when their eyebrows tickled each other. It's been going on our whole lives but it hasn't stopped. If you sit back and watch a football match now compared to 20 years ago the antics are genuinely quite pathetic but the referees have pandered to it so fans are always looking for more red cards and penalties to be given because they've had one against them that was similar. Quote
LFCMike Posted Monday at 13:57 Posted Monday at 13:57 17 minutes ago, Stan said: The one where he smashed De Ligt in the face with his shoulder? Literally looks at him and charges at him. Was he booked for that? In my opinion it should have been a red. If it happens on a Liverpool player I think you'd all be angered. Back/shoulder, whatever. It wasn't a red card Quote
MUFC Posted Monday at 20:25 Posted Monday at 20:25 6 hours ago, Stan said: The one where he smashed De Ligt in the face with his shoulder? Literally looks at him and charges at him. Was he booked for that? In my opinion it should have been a red. If it happens on a Liverpool player I think you'd all be angered. Was it a red? Who knows, but am 100% certain that if De Ligt did that to Nunes. He'd have rolled around and got him sent off. Quote
Rick Posted Monday at 20:41 Posted Monday at 20:41 Wolves have dominated this game, but find themselves behind from a shitty early goal. Forest hardly look interested in getting forward. Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted Monday at 20:48 Subscriber Posted Monday at 20:48 Hopefully this is the end of Wolves' bounce. Quote
Administrator Stan Posted Monday at 20:49 Author Administrator Posted Monday at 20:49 7 minutes ago, Rick said: Wolves have dominated this game, but find themselves behind from a shitty early goal. Forest hardly look interested in getting forward. 3 minutes ago, Rick said: Smash and grab. 0-2 Forest seem to have been good at that this season. Stay defensively resolute and hit teams on the counter. It's effective for them, annoyingly. Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted Monday at 20:51 Subscriber Posted Monday at 20:51 Not watching but just seen this on Twitter. They really do just make it up don't they? I swear I've seen a hundred of these since VAR came in, 50 have been given and 50 haven't, and every time the "expert referees" gaslight us all and back up their mates. Quote
Administrator Stan Posted Monday at 21:50 Author Administrator Posted Monday at 21:50 58 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Not watching but just seen this on Twitter. They really do just make it up don't they? I swear I've seen a hundred of these since VAR came in, 50 have been given and 50 haven't, and every time the "expert referees" gaslight us all and back up their mates. They said it was due to the speed of the ball. The guy was so far away when his arm came out Quote
Dr. Gonzo Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago On 06/01/2025 at 00:00, Stan said: @Dr. Gonzo I notice there wasn't much criticism of the ref with the Nunez incident Man broke the rules to foul a United player, no way am I criticising that. Also got a booking - if you think that's a red, that's probably just a personal problem 1 Quote
Subscriber Dan+ Posted 12 hours ago Subscriber Posted 12 hours ago On 06/01/2025 at 13:53, RandoEFC said: It's not a stonewall red card but the way football's gone now, if the Man Utd player had screamed and rolled around a bit more and they'd surrounded the ref then they probably could have got him sent off. One of those fouls that wouldn't even be discussed as a potential red card 5 years ago but now is borderline enough that VAR doesn't overturn it either way. Football gets worse and worse every year, certainly in the Premier League. The slow creep of players diving more because they're actively rewarded for it, penalties being given for the slightest of accidental handballs that would never be given as free kicks in midfield, players getting red cards for something mildly aggressive that would barely have got them a booking a few years ago, penalties being given because defenders didn't dislocate their neck to prevent themselves from brushing their opponent on the ear after losing a header, players getting sent off because they squared up to someone and the other guy started crying and rolling on the floor when their eyebrows tickled each other. It's been going on our whole lives but it hasn't stopped. If you sit back and watch a football match now compared to 20 years ago the antics are genuinely quite pathetic but the referees have pandered to it so fans are always looking for more red cards and penalties to be given because they've had one against them that was similar. Think this is one of my gripes with VAR - VAR, surely, should've been used to clamp down on this sort of thing and if anything it's just further legitimised it. It's complete insanity, everyone knows it, and I don't know why people put up with it. Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted 8 hours ago Subscriber Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, Dan said: Think this is one of my gripes with VAR - VAR, surely, should've been used to clamp down on this sort of thing and if anything it's just further legitimised it. It's complete insanity, everyone knows it, and I don't know why people put up with it. It pisses me off. Giving a penalty is incredibly consequential and the bar for awarding one for handball or minor contact gets lower on an almost weekly basis. It should be the opposite. Give a penalty when it's absolutely stonewall. It's astonishing really that there's so many things that get waved off in the middle of the pitch where a free kick wouldn't matter is suddenly a big enough deal to give a penalty. They often seem desperate to find any technicality that gives them an excuse to give a penalty. Let's be honest. Penalties are drama and drama gets clicks and eyeballs pointing at the Premier League. It's probably intentional. Quote
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