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Football's Rich List (2016/17)

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Man Utd top.

10 English clubs in top 20. 3 of those being Leicester, Southampton, West Ham.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42767374

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Manchester United have topped the table of the world's 20 richest football clubs for the second year in a row, and 10th time overall, says Deloitte.

Its Football Money League, based on season 2016-17, also shows the combined revenues of the 20 clubs has risen 6% to €7.9bn (£6.97bn), a new record.

Real Madrid, which held top spot for 11 years, were second and Barcelona third.

There were a record 10 English Premier League clubs in the top 20. The number in the top 30 was up from 12 to 14.

The list only looks at revenues accrued and does not take into account club debts.

This year's battle for first place was the closest yet, with just €1.7m separating Manchester United and Real Madrid.

Manchester United's €676m revenues were boosted by €44.5m from Uefa after winning the Europa League against Ajax.

Deloitte said this sum was "the critical factor in keeping them ahead of Real Madrid and Barcelona".

Bayern Munich and Manchester City completed the top five, retaining their positions from last year.

Arsenal, Paris St-Germain, Chelsea, Liverpool and Juventus occupied places six to 10. Tottenham were in 11th spot, Leicester City 14th, West Ham 17th, Southampton 18th and Everton 20th.

All the 20 clubs represented are from the "big five" European leagues, with Italy, Germany and Spain contributing three clubs each and France one.

Other findings include:

AC Milan fall out of the top 20 for the first time and AS Roma for only the third time

Southampton are the only debutant in the top 20 after broadcast revenues soared

AFC Bournemouth are the only debutant amongst clubs ranked 21 to 30

China and the USA may see a member club enter the list in future

"Next year, we expect the eight billion euros [revenue] barrier will be broken, but revenue growth is not expected to be as significant as seen in 2016-17," said Dan Jones, partner in Deloitte's Sport Business Group.

"Germany's new domestic broadcast deal commences and will increase revenue, but Premier League and La Liga distributions will remain relatively stable, as both enter the second year of existing TV deals.

"Looking further ahead, the long term composition of the Money League is an intriguing topic. English clubs' dominance will depend heavily on the outcome of the Premier League's ongoing tender for the next three year TV deal starting from 2019-20."

•1. Manchester United: €676.3m

•2. Real Madrid: €674.6m

•3. Barcelona: €648.3m

•4. Bayern Munich; €587.8m

•5. Manchester City: €527.7m

•6. Arsenal: €487.6m

•7. Paris Saint Germain: €486.2m

•8. Chelsea: €428m

•9. Liverpool: €424.2m

•10. Juventus: €405.7m

Deloitte says that participation and performance in Uefa competitions has always been a critical success factor in the Money League, "but its impact on clubs' revenue is more noticeable than ever".

The Champions League and Europa League played an important role in improving, or retaining, positions for Manchester United, Leicester City, Napoli and Southampton,

Meanwhile, FC Zenit St Petersburg and AS Roma lost their top 20 status after weakened European performances compared with 2015-16.

A return to the Europa League also buoyed Southampton's revenue.

 

 

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I didn't see a list on the site. Did I miss it or did they just not provide the entire top 20 list?

I want to say Inter were 18th or something last year on it.

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10 minutes ago, Eco said:

I didn't see a list on the site. Did I miss it or did they just not provide the entire top 20 list?

I want to say Inter were 18th or something last year on it.

The BBC don't give a shit outside of Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal, that is why they only print the top 10.

2016-17 revenue in £m (v 2015-16 revenue)

1) Manchester United 581.2 (515.3)
2) Real Madrid 579.7 (463.8)
3) Barcelona 557.1 (463.8)
4) Bayern Munich 505.1 (442.7)
5) Manchester City 453.5 (392.6)
6) Arsenal 419 (350.4)
7) PSG 417.8 (389.6)
8) Chelsea 367.8 (334.6)
9) Liverpool 364.5 (302)
10) Juventus 348.6 (253.5)
11) Tottenham 305.6 (209.2)
12) Borussia Dortmund 285.8 (212.3)
13) Atlético Madrid 234.2 (171)~
14) Leicester City 233 (128.7)
15) Internazionale 225.2 (134)
16) Schalke 197.8 (167.9)
17) West Ham 183.3 (143.8)
18) Southampton 182.3 (124.3)
19) Napoli 172.5 (107.8)
20) Everton 171.2 (121.5)

 

Interestingly, there is gigantic revenue growth everywhere, not just in the Premier League.

 

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Just now, Kitchen Sales said:

The BBC don't give a shit outside of Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal, that is why they only print the top 10.

2016-17 revenue in £m (v 2015-16 revenue)

1) Manchester United 581.2 (515.3)
2) Real Madrid 579.7 (463.8)
3) Barcelona 557.1 (463.8)
4) Bayern Munich 505.1 (442.7)
5) Manchester City 453.5 (392.6)
6) Arsenal 419 (350.4)
7) PSG 417.8 (389.6)
8) Chelsea 367.8 (334.6)
9) Liverpool 364.5 (302)
10) Juventus 348.6 (253.5)
11) Tottenham 305.6 (209.2)
12) Borussia Dortmund 285.8 (212.3)
13) Atlético Madrid 234.2 (171)~
14) Leicester City 233 (128.7)
15) Internazionale 225.2 (134)
16) Schalke 197.8 (167.9)
17) West Ham 183.3 (143.8)
18) Southampton 182.3 (124.3)
19) Napoli 172.5 (107.8)
20) Everton 171.2 (121.5)

 

Interestingly, there is gigantic revenue growth everywhere, not just in the Premier League.

 

I am somewhat surprised Juventus are higher up. CL Finalist, Coppa Italia Champions, Italian Champions.

Maybe the new stadium with a capacity of only 40k is hurting them? :what:

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21 minutes ago, Cannabis said:

Arsenal in 6th just shows how good a businessman Kroenke is :ph34r:.

It actually DOES show that mate.  It shows that he and the shareholders are doing the job they’re good at and are there to do.

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20 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

It actually DOES show that mate.  It shows that he and the shareholders are doing the job they’re good at and are there to do.

In comparison to Manchester United Arsenal are getting worse and worse and worse. Man Utd are top and weren't even in the Champions League xD 

Even Bournemoth are the 32nd richest club in the world and they are a village team.

Beneath the surface how much are Arsenal just living off the system?

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1 minute ago, Kitchen Sales said:

In comparison to Manchester United Arsenal are getting worse and worse and worse. Man Utd are top and weren't even in the Champions League xD 

Even Bournemoth are the 32nd richest club in the world and they are a village team.

Beneath the surface how much are Arsenal just living off the system?

I don’t think so mate... The amount of time Man Utd have been absent from major success is negligeable at the moment (the reason they’re spending so much because it’s now arriving at a moment where levels need material matter) whereas with Arsenal we can talk about a marvellous business model.  We win what sadly has become second tier trophies and don’t even come anywhere near competing for the stuff brand names need to use as a carrot.  In that sense I think we’re doing spectacular work and instead of looking at to be sad about sporting achievements or the search for them, we should begin to just brag about these things as they’re more about football headlines these days than anything else.

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1 hour ago, SirBalon said:

I don’t think so mate... The amount of time Man Utd have been absent from major success is negligeable at the moment (the reason they’re spending so much because it’s now arriving at a moment where levels need material matter) whereas with Arsenal we can talk about a marvellous business model.  We win what sadly has become second tier trophies and don’t even come anywhere near competing for the stuff brand names need to use as a carrot.  In that sense I think we’re doing spectacular work and instead of looking at to be sad about sporting achievements or the search for them, we should begin to just brag about these things as they’re more about football headlines these days than anything else.

What work though? David Dein and Arsene Wenger did most of the work over 10 years ago. What is Kroenke doing that shows he isn't just living off the interest from that?

Every single clubs revenues have gone up. Liverpool have closed the gap on Arsenal and Man Utd have opened up a bigger gap over the last 10 years. I can't see what is marvellous about it when judged against competitors. It looks like an under performing business to me.

After Mike Ashley, Roman Abramovich appears to be the biggest under performer of all the richest English club owners from a decade ago. Not surprising when he relies on his personal wealth and not the business.

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41 minutes ago, Kitchen Sales said:

What work though? David Dein and Arsene Wenger did most of the work over 10 years ago. What is Kroenke doing that shows he isn't just living off the interest from that?

Every single clubs revenues have gone up. Liverpool have closed the gap on Arsenal and Man Utd have opened up a bigger gap over the last 10 years. I can't see what is marvellous about it when judged against competitors. It looks like an under performing business to me.

After Mike Ashley, Roman Abramovich appears to be the biggest under performer of all the richest English club owners from a decade ago. Not surprising when he relies on his personal wealth and not the business.

With respects to Liverpool closing a gap I agree although it’s not too long ago Liverpool won the Champions League. As for a comparison between the Man Utd brand name and the Arsenal one, there’s no competition. 

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32 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

With respects to Liverpool closing a gap I agree although it’s not too long ago Liverpool won the Champions League. As for a comparison between the Man Utd brand name and the Arsenal one, there’s no competition. 

I don't mean matching Man Utd but Man Utd are growing at a significantly more rapid rate. That in combination with Liverpool closing in suggests something is amiss. Granted we don't have the financial figures broken down to do a proper analysis.

It can't be that you sign players no one has heard of like Lacazette either :ph34r: because Chelsea are obviously doing even worse than Arsenal at growing their club. 

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So we've apparently spent tonnes but are only the 10th richest team in the league. Overachieving sitting 9th then :coffee:.

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