Subscriber Dan+ Posted March 29, 2018 Subscriber Posted March 29, 2018 I think Palace were significantly more entertaining than Ipswich have been. Palace may not be Wolves or Fulham but they were still a good side to watch at times, very good on the counter. Ipswich have got to be just about the worst club in the country to support. I'm serious. Even compared to clubs like Portsmouth, they're just boring. There's nothing about them. Every year it's a totally forgettable league finish, nothing of note in the cups, there's just nothing to get excited about. Even the one year they did scrape into the play-offs they had to endure their rivals beating them to Wembley, and winning the final. Portsmouth have had a calamitous few years but I still think their scenario can actually bring about some good points as well. The unity of the fans, the variation in different grounds they're getting to go to, and the fact they're on the right tracks again. You get the feeling they're sorting themselves out. Ipswich are just mundane. It's one thing with them every year. I don't even think McCarthy's done a particularly bad job, but it's quite clear that it would be ridiculous if he stayed there. There's nothing anyone's gaining from it, with the relationship between fans, manager and owner at a low.
Dave Posted March 30, 2018 Author Posted March 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Mantis Toboggan M.D. said: So you went up....did you play this expansive and exciting brand of football like Wolves or Fulham? That's the point I was making. We were fucking excellent for two thirds of the season with Wilfried, Yannick and Andre Moritz. People were comparing us to Swansea by Christmas, then Ollie abandoned defending and the whole thing nearly went weird.
Dave Posted March 30, 2018 Author Posted March 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Dan said: I think Palace were significantly more entertaining than Ipswich have been. Palace may not be Wolves or Fulham but they were still a good side to watch at times, very good on the counter. Ipswich have got to be just about the worst club in the country to support. I'm serious. Even compared to clubs like Portsmouth, they're just boring. There's nothing about them. Every year it's a totally forgettable league finish, nothing of note in the cups, there's just nothing to get excited about. Even the one year they did scrape into the play-offs they had to endure their rivals beating them to Wembley, and winning the final. Portsmouth have had a calamitous few years but I still think their scenario can actually bring about some good points as well. The unity of the fans, the variation in different grounds they're getting to go to, and the fact they're on the right tracks again. You get the feeling they're sorting themselves out. Ipswich are just mundane. It's one thing with them every year. I don't even think McCarthy's done a particularly bad job, but it's quite clear that it would be ridiculous if he stayed there. There's nothing anyone's gaining from it, with the relationship between fans, manager and owner at a low. Oh, we were boring under Dougie Freedman. It took an infamous car park row with Steve Parish after we lost 4-0 to Bristol City in August 2012 for everything to change.
BounceAroundTheGround Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 29/03/2018 at 18:33, The Palace Fan said: Our Starting Eleven when we went up was: Dundee United Goalkeeper Portsmouth free agent right back Free transfer from Ipswich Town centre back Free transfer from QPR centre back Transfer listed at Derby left back Transfer listed at Fulham Center Midfielder Free Agent from Turkey Midfielder Academy Right Winger A trialist seen at Rangers as an attacking midfielder Transfer listed at Bristol City Left Winger A free agent from Brighton up front. You don't need shitloads of money if you invest correctly. For the record, I think Mick has done a very good job at Ipswich over the years, but I think the players coming through will improve more under a more adventurous style. They're the only Championship team regularly churning out players without a golden nugget. TBF that left winger did turn out to become Yannick Bolasie...
Dave Posted March 31, 2018 Author Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, BounceAroundTheGround said: TBF that left winger did turn out to become Yannick Bolasie... Yep. Other names include Mile Jedinak, Joel Ward and Glenn Murray. Small budget, brilliant scouting. That's the trick.
Pig on the Wing Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 30/03/2018 at 06:49, The Palace Fan said: Oh, we were boring under Dougie Freedman. It took an infamous car park row with Steve Parish after we lost 4-0 to Bristol City in August 2012 for everything to change. Just seeing that name makes my blood boil. What a wanker.
Dave Posted April 4, 2018 Author Posted April 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, StefBWFC said: Just seeing that name makes my blood boil. What a wanker. Still can't get over he's wormed his way back in and is signing players that can't get a game with the u23's.
Smiley Culture Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stan said: he's jacked it in What does he expect? He's called fans 'numbskulls' recently and has constantly slated Ipswich fans in the press lately, they're hardly going to back him, are they? I'm not saying the fans are completely right here but the 'relationship' between McCarthy and Ipswich fans couldn't be any more strained if it was possible and once you're saying some of the stuff McCarthy has said, you're going to have to expect that people won't be too pleased.
Dave Posted April 10, 2018 Author Posted April 10, 2018 Quite sad how this has all turned out really. The fans want a better brand of football, Mick has alienated himself, and the relationship has got toxic. The thing everybody is overlooking is they're actually in a very healthy league position given the strain on their resources. Mick McCarthy's next move will be an interesting one. Does he go comfortable with Barnsley or push him self to turn it around at somebody with higher expectations like West Brom? I think he would do reasonable at either.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted April 10, 2018 Subscriber Posted April 10, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 15:27, The Palace Fan said: Yep. Other names include Mile Jedinak, Joel Ward and Glenn Murray. Small budget, brilliant scouting. That's the trick. Keeper from Leeds Right back from QPR Centre half from Forest Centre half from Stoke Left back from Schalke Right winger from Le Havre Centre mid from Man Utd's academy Centre mid from Caen Left winger from Aston Villa Striker from Mainz Striker from Fleetwood Premier League champions. Never under-estimate scouting and the need to think signings out properly.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted April 10, 2018 Subscriber Posted April 10, 2018 It's sad that he's basically decided to jack it in even earlier than planned. Do get the impression they could go down next season.
Danny Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 @The Palace Fan what was your budget in relation to the rest of the league? @Dan agree with the point but your title win was more of anomaly than anything if being used as a consistent argument for smart scouting
Subscriber Dan+ Posted April 11, 2018 Subscriber Posted April 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Danny said: @The Palace Fan what was your budget in relation to the rest of the league? @Dan agree with the point but your title win was more of anomaly than anything if being used as a consistent argument for smart scouting But it still happened, and it's still proof that the right players are out there if you look hard enough. A couple of them in-particular really made it click but still, not a single one other than maybe Drinkwater there (based on where we got him from) that you'd put down to go on and win the league.
Dave Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 12 hours ago, Danny said: @The Palace Fan what was your budget in relation to the rest of the league? @Dan agree with the point but your title win was more of anomaly than anything if being used as a consistent argument for smart scouting I'm pretty sure we made a profit that summer with the sales of Ambrose, Clyne and Scannell. I remember there was teams like Forest spending millions and signing everybody available. I reckon we were bottom eight spenders. Most of our money would have been loan fees and agent fees in January to support Holloway.
Danny Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: I'm pretty sure we made a profit that summer with the sales of Ambrose, Clyne and Scannell. I remember there was teams like Forest spending millions and signing everybody available. I reckon we were bottom eight spenders. Most of our money would have been loan fees and agent fees in January to support Holloway. I meant in wages if you know?Ambrose went to Rangers didn't he? Id love it if we make play offs, last seasons wage budget was bottom 5 I think and maybe even bottom 3 and Indont think we've pushed it up that much.
Administrator Stan Posted May 1, 2018 Administrator Posted May 1, 2018 @roversgirl @JOSHBRFC probably delighted at this news!
Pig on the Wing Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Stan said: @roversgirl @JOSHBRFC probably delighted at this news! Not really surprising - why leave a club right after taking them up, to go to a club that has just treaded water for a decade?
roversgirl Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Stan said: @roversgirl @JOSHBRFC probably delighted at this news! Oh yes! Unless a Premier League club came in for him I genuinely don't think he'd leave us after this season in terms of his relationship with the fans. He has helped reconnect the club and the fans, and has put a lot of hard work into the club on and off the field. It is a big project but I'd like to think we'd at least get another season from him, and if we continue to do well I wouldn't be surprised if clubs were interested. He was always going to get linked though being an ex player.
Subscriber JoshBRFC+ Posted May 5, 2018 Subscriber Posted May 5, 2018 There’s still work to be done, and it’s only the beginning of his project with us. He won’t leave for a while unless we go straight back down.
Dave Posted May 5, 2018 Author Posted May 5, 2018 On 01/05/2018 at 20:28, roversgirl said: Oh yes! Unless a Premier League club came in for him I genuinely don't think he'd leave us after this season in terms of his relationship with the fans. He has helped reconnect the club and the fans, and has put a lot of hard work into the club on and off the field. It is a big project but I'd like to think we'd at least get another season from him, and if we continue to do well I wouldn't be surprised if clubs were interested. He was always going to get linked though being an ex player. If one of the relegated teams hinted at an approach he'd be looking up taxi numbers now.
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