Group F Matchday 1 - 17/18th June - Germany 0-1 Mexico, Sweden 1-0 South Korea

[Azeem]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

I HATE HIS SPORT

DONT FUCKING USE VAR IF A CALL IS ALREADY MADE

USE IT STRAIGHT AWAY

You want to use VAR as goal line technology ? When there is a foul it says on refree's watch ?

[Rick]

So you guys would rather they stopped play every time to double check? Surely that would be more of a bloody delay...we saw in the first half another pen claim that was played on. If the call on the field is incorrect then I support VAR being double checked while the play continues. It was the right call made so I dont understand the whinging. 

[Spike]

Just now, Devon Von Devon said:

You want to use VAR as goal line technology ? When there is a foul it says on refree's watch ?

lmao Just cut out the middle man and give all the players a watch.

[Rick]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

 Uhh, no. I expect the ref to stop play review VAR and then make a decision. Not make a decision, let play continue, stop play, and then make a new decision. That is stupid.

The referee still has to make calls based on his own initial judgement. He shouldn't have to stop and review every single incident, that's what the guys in the room are there for, to tell him if he needs to review a decision.

[Azeem]

Just now, Spike said:

lmao Just cut out the middle man and give all the players a watch.

What Mantis said

[Guest]

Lee Seung-Woo!

[SirBalon]

The Koreans literally have no concept of what pressing means and the reason it’s used. They just wait for a Sweden error which in fairness always arrives. Very poor quality. 

[6666]

1 hour ago, Blue said:

Nah I'm not having that. I see the likes of Iceland, Mexico and Peru trying to win every ball in any position and then I see Ozil just accept he's been beaten.

He did well in tracking back but the work rate was shocking, and not being a right back is no excuse. He's just a weaker Riquelme.

"Did well tracking back but the work rate was shocking"... You don't even see the contradiction do you? 

He would've gotten less shit if he didn't even bother getting back to cover for an absent defence.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, 6666 said:

"Did well tracking back but the work rate was shocking"... You don't even see the contradiction do you? 

He would've gotten less shit if he didn't even bother getting back to cover for an absent defence.

I agree, but tracking back and doing nothing there doesn't mean you did the job.

[Spike]

1 minute ago, Mantis Toboggan M.D. said:

So you guys would rather they stopped play every time to double check? Surely that would be more of a bloody delay...we saw in the first half another pen claim that was played on. If the call on the field is incorrect then I support VAR being double checked while the play continues. It was the right call made so I dont understand the whinging. 

Use the quote system. No, the ref doesn't need to stop play to double check everytime. That is stupid, we have pro refs for a reason they shouldn't need to double check very often. Only when the view was obfuscsted should a ref rely on VAR.

If a call is made, a call is made.

[Spike]

4 minutes ago, Mantis Toboggan M.D. said:

The referee still has to make calls based on his own initial judgement. He shouldn't have to stop and review every single incident, that's what the guys in the room are there for, to tell him if he needs to review a decision.

I never said anything about reviewing every incident. 

[Rick]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

I never said anything about reviewing every incident. 

But you're whining about it being used here? To make the correct call. The referee thought the ball was won, it was clearly not on review. So he overturned his mistake. There is no better way to use VAR. Without literally stopping for every incident to be reviewed or giving the lead VAR official the power to overturn the refs decision him/herself. 

[Spike]

VAR should be a tool used by the ref to facilitate decisions that can't be made on what is seen. Not a secondary assisstant that makes retroactive calls.

[Azeem]

Grassrolling by most teams so far in the tournament 

[Azeem]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

VAR should be a tool used by the ref to facilitate decisions that can't be made on what is seen. Not a secondary assisstant that makes retroactive calls.

Who's to decide which decisions can't be made ? What if the ref makes every decision even if its wrong. 

[Spike]

3 minutes ago, Mantis Toboggan M.D. said:

But you're whining about it being used here? To make the correct call. The referee thought the ball was won, it was clearly not on review. So he overturned his mistake. There is no better way to use VAR. Without literally stopping for every incident to be reviewed or giving the lead VAR official the power to overturn the refs decision him/herself. 

If the ref is sure and makes the call despite it being wrong, I'm fine with it. 

I hope one day during the 30 or so seconds that it takes to review while play is till going on, the opposing team scores, it is pulled back, disallowed, and then a penalty is given to against. That'd be hilarious.

[SirBalon]

2 minutes ago, Devon Von Devon said:

Who's to decide which decisions can't be made ? What if the ref makes every decision even if its wrong. 

Then Russia would win the World Cup and Putin would referee it from one of those emperor style seats corrupt people are sitting on so far during this World Cup. 

[Spike]

2 minutes ago, Devon Von Devon said:

Who's to decide which decisions can't be made ? What if the ref makes every decision even if its wrong. 

Then that ref probably shouldn't be at the world cup. VAR isn't perfect there will be decisions made that won't be correct either. The sport looks different in replay, and slowed down. All I want is consistency, if a call is made, it is made.

[SirBalon]

5 minutes ago, Devon Von Devon said:

Grassrolling by most teams so far in the tournament 

Grassrolling? 

Brilliant... I’m gonna use that next season. 

[Azeem]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

If the ref is sure and makes the call despite it being wrong, I'm fine with it. 

I hope one day during the 30 or so seconds that it takes to review while play is till going on, the opposing team scores, it is pulled back, disallowed, and then a penalty is given to against. That'd be hilarious.

I do think the panel watching won't take that much time to review. I'm sure they are told to go for review if they see a situation like that.

[Spike]

Just now, Devon Von Devon said:

I do think the panel watching won't take that much time to review. I'm sure they are told to go for review if they see a situation like that.

It took that long during the Aus v Fra match

[SirBalon]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

Then that ref probably shouldn't be at the world cup. VAR isn't perfect there will be decisions made that won't be correct either. The sport looks different in replay, and slowed down. All I want is consistency, if a call is made, it is made.

To be honest mate... I’m with you in that some refs shouldn’t be at the tournament. How he didn’t see that as a penalty in realtime is beyond me. 

[Azeem]

Just now, SirBalon said:

Grassrolling? 

Brilliant... I’m gonna use that next season. 

You haven't heard that term ? I've learned it from another forum

[SirBalon]

Just now, Devon Von Devon said:

You haven't heard that term ? I've learned it from another forum

Never heard it or read it in my life other than for the reason grassrolling is actually used. 

[Eco]

Unless there is another goal, this will be one of those unforgettable games of the World Cup.