Happy Blue Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Lucas said: It's generally a little boring these days because 80% of the team is Liverpool and City with a sprinkling of others. I know you can't ignore them but it also diminishes what say someone like Bowen or Ward-Prowse who've both had excellent seasons have done, not to mention Gallagher, Saka, Cash etc Would be far more interesting to name an XI that didn't include City or Liverpool because of the diversity in it but here we are. I have 4 players in mine not from Liverpool or City ..i think some of the bigger clubs might be interested in Bowen, maybe even Liverpool after the season he's had
Happy Blue Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, Cicero said: Non City/Liverpool Sanchez R.James Romero Rudiger Cucurella Rice Gallagher Kovacic Ronaldo Son Kane You have to have Bowen surly?
Cicero Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: You have to have Bowen surly? Thought about it but not over Son, Ronaldo, or Kane.
Happy Blue Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Thought about it but not over Son, Ronaldo, or Kane. I have them 3 in my team too with Bowen
MUFC Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 ‐‐-------------------De Gea----------------------------- Trent-----------VVd---Diaz----------Cancelo -------------- Rodri-------------Fabinho------------ Salah------------------Son--------------------KDB MANE
Dave Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 Alisson Trent - VVD - Matip - Cancelo Rodri - KDB Salah - Son - Mane Kane ---- Without the top two: Lloris R.James - T.Silva - Rudiger - Tierney Rice - Kovacic Ronaldo - Bowen - Son Kane
Subscriber Dan+ Posted May 23, 2022 Subscriber Posted May 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Lucas said: It's generally a little boring these days because 80% of the team is Liverpool and City with a sprinkling of others. I know you can't ignore them but it also diminishes what say someone like Bowen or Ward-Prowse who've both had excellent seasons have done, not to mention Gallagher, Saka, Cash etc Would be far more interesting to name an XI that didn't include City or Liverpool because of the diversity in it but here we are. I think Jose Sa is surely a contender for goalkeeper. Wolves would've been in a relegation battle with an average keeper.
Cicero Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: Alisson Trent - VVD - Matip - Cancelo Rodri - KDB Salah - Son - Mane Kane ---- Without the top two: Lloris R.James - T.Silva - Rudiger - Tierney Rice - Kovacic Ronaldo - Bowen - Son Kane No Gallagher?
Subscriber Dan+ Posted May 23, 2022 Subscriber Posted May 23, 2022 PL TOTY Alisson TAA - VVD - Matip - Cancelo Rodri De Bruyne - B. Silva Salah - Son - Mane PL TOTY (without top two) Jose Sa James - Silva - Dawson - Tierney Rice - Kovacic Bowen - Maddison - Son Kane
Dave Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cicero said: No Gallagher? There's about six or seven players I wouldn't bat an eyelid if they made people's teams and he's one of them.
OrangeKhrush Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 Still going with Bruno Guimaraes in most line ups. I have posted links from FbRef for three players in a similar role: 1: https://fbref.com/en/players/82518f62/Bruno-Guimaraes 2: https://fbref.com/en/players/1c7012b8/Declan-Rice 3: https://fbref.com/en/players/7f3b388c/Fabinho Bruno Guimaraes scores high accross the board in every metric bar headers won, 24 pressures per 90 is over 10 more than Rice and Fabinho and nearly 4 tackles won per 90 is a point higher than Rice and around 2 over Fabinho. All three players are good, Bruno will make all 20 teams better.
Dave Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: Still going with Bruno Guimaraes in most line ups. I have posted links from FbRef for three players in a similar role: 1: https://fbref.com/en/players/82518f62/Bruno-Guimaraes 2: https://fbref.com/en/players/1c7012b8/Declan-Rice 3: https://fbref.com/en/players/7f3b388c/Fabinho Bruno Guimaraes scores high accross the board in every metric bar headers won, 24 pressures per 90 is over 10 more than Rice and Fabinho and nearly 4 tackles won per 90 is a point higher than Rice and around 2 over Fabinho. All three players are good, Bruno will make all 20 teams better. He's played 15 games in a 38 game season. Unless he's scoring two goals a game that's included the occasional panenka nobody outside of the Newcastle fanbase is going to consider Bruno.
OrangeKhrush Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: He's played 15 games in a 38 game season. Unless he's scoring two goals a game that's included the occasional panenka nobody outside of the Newcastle fanbase is going to consider Bruno. He played in 17 games, it seemed good enough for Diaz and Kulu to be nominated for awards. He played in all possible games and his impact was substantial, the stats don't seem to show an underlying fluke like a player exceeding xG or xA based on a small sample size. Player compared to positional peers in Men's Big 5 Leagues and European Competition over the last 365 days. Based on 2962 minutes played. I am sure that means his Lyon stats are counted.
Dave Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, OrangeKhrush said: He played in 17 games, it seemed good enough for Diaz and Kulu to be nominated for awards. He played in all possible games and his impact was substantial, the stats don't seem to show an underlying fluke like a player exceeding xG or xA based on a small sample size. Player compared to positional peers in Men's Big 5 Leagues and European Competition over the last 365 days. Based on 2962 minutes played. I am sure that means his Lyon stats are counted. My bad. Two of the games he didn't register a Sofascore because he was a 91st and a 92nd minute substitute.
Administrator Stan Posted May 23, 2022 Author Administrator Posted May 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Cicero said: Non City/Liverpool Sanchez R.James Romero Rudiger Cucurella Rice Gallagher Kovacic Ronaldo Son Kane 3 hours ago, Happy Blue said: You have to have Bowen surly? Maddison being criminally overlooked.
Dave Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Stan said: Maddison being criminally overlooked. Maddison's in that category of "hes not in my team but I wouldn't disagree with anybody putting him in there's". I went for Bowen largely because I wasn't sure if Maddison's form at the end of the season was shadowing my judgement over 38 games.
Administrator Stan Posted May 23, 2022 Author Administrator Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: Maddison's in that category of "hes not in my team but I wouldn't disagree with anybody putting him in there's". I went for Bowen largely because I wasn't sure if Maddison's form at the end of the season was shadowing my judgement over 38 games. Bowen has had a stellar season. He's probably one of very few I'd happily accept being included over Maddison.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted May 23, 2022 Subscriber Posted May 23, 2022 Maddison had his best season for us in the end. Got over 30 goal contributions in all competitions which is superb.
Happy Blue Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Stan said: Maddison being criminally overlooked. He finished 6th on points for midfielders with 181pts, just 2 behind Mane. he did indeed have a fantastic season ..only City midfielder with more points was De Bruyne
Subscriber Dan+ Posted May 23, 2022 Subscriber Posted May 23, 2022 I'm saying it as a quite heavy critic of him early doors. He won me over big time this season. He's quality. We've actually got some really decent players. Some of this lot aren't going to wait around in midtable. Fofana and Maddison are both capable of better than finishing 8th.
Inverted Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 Alisson TAA - Matip - Van Dijk - Cancelo Fabinho De Bruyne - Thiago Salah - Mane - Son It feels weird that Liverpool have most of the team despite being second. I think it shows that the edge that City have is that although they "only" have Jesus and Sterling who you would maybe think of forwards, they have a big group of attacking/creative midfielders (KdB, Gundogan, Bernardo Silva, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish) who can rotate, play in a variety of roles, and who can all score and create wherever they play. Whoever plays in the 5 ahead of Rodri, City can field multiple lineups of top players who are all comfortable attacking the box and finishing. De Bruyne is the clear standout but the rest are kinda interchangeable. Liverpool have more of a delineation of roles, in which none of the midfielders are real goalscorers.
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Storts Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Inverted said: Alisson TAA - Matip - Van Dijk - Cancelo Fabinho De Bruyne - Thiago Salah - Mane - Son It feels weird that Liverpool have most of the team despite being second. I think it shows that the edge that City have is that although they "only" have Jesus and Sterling who you would maybe think of forwards, they have a big group of attacking/creative midfielders (KdB, Gundogan, Bernardo Silva, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish) who can rotate, play in a variety of roles, and who can all score and create wherever they play. Whoever plays in the 5 ahead of Rodri, City can field multiple lineups of top players who are all comfortable attacking the box and finishing. De Bruyne is the clear standout but the rest are kinda interchangeable. Liverpool have more of a delineation of roles, in which none of the midfielders are real goalscorers. This is the most biased thing I’ve seen. Dreadful
Inverted Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Storts said: This is the most biased thing I’ve seen. Dreadful The fact that I left Robertson out more than puts that to bed. I'm sorry that Big Bird didn't make the cut up front, if that's what you mean.
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