HK85 Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 Bellew will go where the money is and it's probably that Haye fight. He's not interested in career progression or world titles. Quote
Danny Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 7 hours ago, JOSHBRFC said: I like Bellew and he has been underrated and written off his whole career. However when both are fully fit and 100% Haye will beat him convincingly. What makes you think that? From their fight it was pretty even before his injury and the judges had Bellew up by 2 rounds... Quote
LFCMike Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Danny said: What makes you think that? From their fight it was pretty even before his injury and the judges had Bellew up by 2 rounds... I think he probably means when they're both at their peak, which is true but irrelevant now because Haye's peak is long gone Quote
The Artful Dodger Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Bellew beating a Haye was a huge upset no matter the circumstances. Is anybody really interested in a rematch though? Quote
Subscriber JoshBRFC+ Posted September 22, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 22, 2017 On 20/09/2017 at 11:52 PM, Danny said: What makes you think that? From their fight it was pretty even before his injury and the judges had Bellew up by 2 rounds... Up by 2 rounds is pretty bad considering Haye fought on one leg for 5 rounds. On 21/09/2017 at 10:11 AM, LFCMike said: I think he probably means when they're both at their peak, which is true but irrelevant now because Haye's peak is long gone It does look that way. But I still think even at 100% fit he beats Bellew. On 21/09/2017 at 3:57 PM, Teso dos Bichos said: Andrew Ward announced his retirement from boxing. Under appreciated, definitely the P4P number one in my eyes. Due to poor promotional teams behind him he hasn't got the credit he deserves. Quote
Danny Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, JOSHBRFC said: Up by 2 rounds is pretty bad considering Haye fought on one leg for 5 rounds. It does look that way. But I still think even at 100% fit he beats Bellew. Under appreciated, definitely the P4P number one in my eyes. Due to poor promotional teams behind him he hasn't got the credit he deserves. Before the injury...Bellew won every round after I'm pretty sure. Quote
LFCMike Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 11 hours ago, JOSHBRFC said: Up by 2 rounds is pretty bad considering Haye fought on one leg for 5 rounds. It does look that way. But I still think even at 100% fit he beats Bellew. Under appreciated, definitely the P4P number one in my eyes. Due to poor promotional teams behind him he hasn't got the credit he deserves. I don't think Haye will ever be 100% fit again though. His body won't hold up against a meaningful opponent. On Ward, he didn't get the credit some think he deserved because of his style, boring and dirty. Great talent at times but the boring excessive holding, headbutts and low blows just can't be ignored Quote
LFCMike Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Apparently Ortiz has failed a drugs test. Wilder fight likely off now Quote
HK85 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Bellew-Haye 17th December. A Sunday. Idiots. Quote
LFCMike Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 41 minutes ago, HK85 said: Bellew-Haye 17th December. A Sunday. Idiots. Strange one that. For this Saturday I'm thinking, Dodd, Fielding and Butler all on points. Just under 8/1 Quote
Danny Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 When they fight I can't see Wilder getting past Joshua's upper cut. Quote
Lucas Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 5 hours ago, HoneyNUFC said: I guess he's got a sniff of a chance... Quote
LFCMike Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 I liked him but he's getting boring now. Until he does actually get back in the ring he needs ignoring Quote
LFCMike Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 Groves v Eubank Jr in the WBSS semi final after Groves' win last night in the 4th over Jamie Cox. I'd edge for Groves over Eubank at the moment although I think it's one of them where you can definitely make a case for Eubank and will probably change my mind multiple times between now and when the fight takes place Quote
Danny Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Groves v Eubank Jr in the WBSS semi final after Groves' win last night in the 4th over Jamie Cox. I'd edge for Groves over Eubank at the moment although I think it's one of them where you can definitely make a case for Eubank and will probably change my mind multiple times between now and when the fight takes place It'll make for a good fight, Groves has proven he's prone in the past to getting caught off guard but at the same time Eubank looks dangerous but for me I feel in the past his explosive hits often come at the cost of accuracy and since fighting BJS he hasn't fought someone really who's at his level. 1 Quote
LFCMike Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 Yeah definitely a huge step up in quality for Eubank. He's not faced anyone with Groves' power. He can say he beat Abraham but he was way over the hill then and the fight went as most expected. I definitely favour Groves but it's just whether he can stay on it for 12 rounds for me. Could easily see a situation where he has a good start and Eubank starts to take over in the second half of the fight and Groves runs out of steam Quote
Danny Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Yeah definitely a huge step up in quality for Eubank. He's not faced anyone with Groves' power. He can say he beat Abraham but he was way over the hill then and the fight went as most expected. I definitely favour Groves but it's just whether he can stay on it for 12 rounds for me. Could easily see a situation where he has a good start and Eubank starts to take over in the second half of the fight and Groves runs out of steam I think if Eubank takes it easier and looks to pick him apart rather than just throw punches a thousand miles per hour he'll probably win, Groves took a lot of hits against Cox that Eubank would probably be more punishing of. Quote
Danny Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Joshua makes it 20-0 with a TKO over Takam. A good display against someone who was so small, Joshua hasn't fought anyone that size who was that good. His counter punching is probably the best aspect about him, can see a KO waiting for Wilder. Quote
HK85 Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Bit early on the stoppage but would probably come soon enough anyway. No one else there for Joshua. Think he beats Wilder. Pity Fury will never get back to that level because he dances round AJ. 1 Quote
Danny Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 43 minutes ago, HK85 said: Bit early on the stoppage but would probably come soon enough anyway. No one else there for Joshua. Think he beats Wilder. Pity Fury will never get back to that level because he dances round AJ. He may dance around him but AJ will be throwing punches where Klitch didn't...Fury will be his toughest fight and probably the most boring fight Quote
Subscriber JoshBRFC+ Posted October 30, 2017 Subscriber Posted October 30, 2017 Broken nose from the 2nd round too. I knew Takam would be tricky. People coming out saying how disappointing AJ was. Quote
Danny Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Left him with two cut eyes too, AJs no mug I reckon he was waiting for the last couple of rounds to explode Quote
Julio Geordio Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 AJ gets hit far too much. I think that's why he doesn't seem keen on fighting Wilder. Not saying Wilder would win but he can bang. Fury at his best would beat him though Quote
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