MUFC Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 Russell not expecting much in Bahrain. Wolff said Merc are hiding a touch of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted February 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 24, 2023 Haas have a smaller pit wall to reduce costs. Looks like a phone booth compared to Red Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted February 24, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted February 24, 2023 AMuS apparently reporting that Aston Martin have made a significant jump to fourth fastest and potentially a threat to Ferrari and Mercedes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted February 25, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted February 25, 2023 Mercedes looks a handful but still in the top three. Red Bull most comfortable, Ferrari close perhaps under the right conditions but not consistently. Aston Martin the class of the midfield. Haas and Alfa Romeo looking solid. Mclaren appear to have built a bit of a dog. No idea about the Alpine or Alpha Tauri and assume the Williams is still the slowest or thereabouts. This is what I can glean from watching some testing, listening to the analysis and reading up on the underlying data and "in the know" stuff on Twitter. It can all change before the first race and during the first few rounds. It didn't take long last season for Mercedes to go from midfield to top three and for McLaren and Aston Martin to drag themselves from Q1 to the upper midfield ahead of the likes of Haas and Alfa Romeo. Overall I think Aston going up and Mclaren going down are going to be the key initial changes to the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted February 25, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2023 Fernando Alonso making a right career choice? Unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Good run there from Sainz, currently 2nd on the softs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Really hoping to see more from Sainz this year. He doesn't have Leclerc's pace but I do think he's a more complete driver in a sense, especially when it comes to taking initiative and being on top of things. Which can be very useful in an environment like Ferrari. Alonso scoring some podiums with Aston Martin would also be mega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted February 26, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted February 26, 2023 Alonso should have a really good chance of podiums early in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 Not watched testing, any hope for Mercedes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Alonso getting a podium while Stroll sits in his motorhome would be absolutely glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted February 26, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted February 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, MUFC said: Not watched testing, any hope for Mercedes? Looks like a rough pecking order of Red Bull Ferrari Mercedes/Aston Martin Alpine/Alfa Romeo Haas Alpha Tauri McLaren/Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, MUFC said: Not watched testing, any hope for Mercedes? Based on what they've shown, early season looks like it might be a struggle for them once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted February 27, 2023 Administrator Share Posted February 27, 2023 Any sandbagging going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted February 27, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 27, 2023 The hype is unreal. It will probably lead to disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Aston Martin will probably make a leap but I don't think they'll be competing with Mercedes/Ferrari over an entire season. They just need to capitalize on their good performance early in the season before things stabilize. Kind of like Haas tried to do last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Stan said: Any sandbagging going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I tend not to believe pre-season due to sandbagging, though I would absolutely love for Aston Martin to be competitive and Alpine to look like complete amateurs in their handling of Alonso and Piastri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 16 hours ago, RandoEFC said: Looks like a rough pecking order of Red Bull Ferrari Mercedes/Aston Martin Alpine/Alfa Romeo Haas Alpha Tauri McLaren/Williams What has happened at McLaren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 F1 needs a 2012 wild season where winning is an Oprah special, you get a win, everyone gets a win. pastor Maldonado won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted February 27, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Eco said: What has happened at McLaren? They've just built a crap car this season by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: They've just built a crap car this season by the looks of it. I just mean they have declined every year for the past few ones. 2022:5th 21: 4th 20: 3rd And now you have them on par with Williams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 https://www.planetf1.com/news/mercedes-red-bull-10mm-lower-everyone-else/#vuukle-comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted February 27, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted February 27, 2023 45 minutes ago, Eco said: I just mean they have declined every year for the past few ones. 2022:5th 21: 4th 20: 3rd And now you have them on par with Williams... Yeah they looked like they were really coming along under Zak Brown, peaking with that 3rd place in 2020 when Ferrari had issues with the engine regulations and dropped back to the midfield. They built a dog last season for the new regulations and 5th flattered them really. It was more about Norris' consistency than them building a much better car. With their resources they should really be ahead of everyone apart from the big three by default but F1 isn't Mclaren's sole focus anymore. They seem happy to be about 4th in the WCC and sell sportscars and put in token entries to a load of other motorsports series to boost their brand. Shame really as it's one of the teams that should be capable of preventing domination at the front by being in the mix. They will develop their way out of being knocked out in Q1 again this season but they should be capable of so much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted February 28, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 28, 2023 Pecking order predicted by F1 pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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