Liverpool Discussion

[LFCMike]

I think we only see players get new deals early if they've come in on a comparatively low wage, done really well and have shown they're worth more than they're on. With Trent, he's already on a very good wage so there wasn't really any need to start talks when he still had two years left. It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that have led to him being down to the final 6/7 months without a new deal in place but I don't think it's one we can be overly critical of the club for.

[Rick]

So in only two days time, all three of the players out of contract this summer can sign a pre-contract agreement with foreign clubs. 
 

I don’t know what the hell is going on at management level, but this situation continues to be a failure from whoever is handling it. Joke of a situation. 

[LFCMike]

Don't let the contract situations spoil your enjoyment of what's happening on the pitch with this team. 

What will be, will be with the contracts. None of us know how close or far away any of them are. Bring me trophies this season.

[Gooner]

1 hour ago, LFCMike said:

Don't let the contract situations spoil your enjoyment of what's happening on the pitch with this team. 

What will be, will be with the contracts. None of us know how close or far away any of them are. Bring me trophies this season.

Do you think you'll think any differently if news comes out sometime in January that one of the three players have signed a pre contract with another team and will join them for next season? 

I'm with you now on the current contract situation as on the pitch no one seems concerned and that's the most important thing. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

I’m not filled with a ton of confidence in keeping any of the big name players who have their contracts expiring, looking at FSG’s history with the same sort of situation in US sports. They’re cheap cunts honestly.

So best we can do is just enjoy them while we have them and hope for the best.

[Dave]

Alan Nixon has reported that Marc Guehi could join Liverpool. Alan Nixon has a reputation for being used by agents, but for Palace it's well known that his source is Dougie Freedman and I don't think he'd want to sour that relationship.

Its been known that Dougie is high on Ben Doak. So it may be in the summer we work out a deal where Liverpool get a left footed CB for a big market discount because he's in the last year of his contract and there's a player exchange involved.

One to keep an eye on for the summer.

[Rick]

5 hours ago, LFCMike said:

Don't let the contract situations spoil your enjoyment of what's happening on the pitch with this team. 

What will be, will be with the contracts. None of us know how close or far away any of them are. Bring me trophies this season.

I’m not letting it spoil anything. But it is a bit mental that we haven’t heard a single thing in 5 month. 

[RandoEFC+]

Where would Van Dijk or Salah even go if they didn't renew? I can see Alexander-Arnold going to Real Madrid and I can see the logic behind Salah being linked to Saudi but I just don't buy it when he's in this sort of form.

[Dr. Gonzo]

9 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

Where would Van Dijk or Salah even go if they didn't renew? I can see Alexander-Arnold going to Real Madrid and I can see the logic behind Salah being linked to Saudi but I just don't buy it when he's in this sort of form.

With the form Salah's in, I imagine he'd have his pick of clubs if we don't get him to sign a new contract. And if the DOF fails to get him to sign another contract, I think he'll have fans calling for him to be dragged through the streets and publicly humiliated before getting sacked. Don't Madrid have a serious issue at CB? Could see them being in for both of our defenders.

It's an absolutely idiotic position FSG's got us in with probably our 3 most important players all having their contracts expire at the same time, so I understand why some of my fellow LFC fans are pissed off.

Still think there's nothing we can really do but enjoy the season while we can. FSG are cheap arses for sure, but they've given us some good times. Sure they did squander some of that time we had under Klopp by being frugal... but overall we're a pretty self-sustaining club now that is enjoying a period of stability after decades of instability.

[RandoEFC+]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

With the form Salah's in, I imagine he'd have his pick of clubs if we don't get him to sign a new contract. And if the DOF fails to get him to sign another contract, I think he'll have fans calling for him to be dragged through the streets and publicly humiliated before getting sacked. Don't Madrid have a serious issue at CB? Could see them being in for both of our defenders.

It's an absolutely idiotic position FSG's got us in with probably our 3 most important players all having their contracts expire at the same time, so I understand why some of my fellow LFC fans are pissed off.

Still think there's nothing we can really do but enjoy the season while we can. FSG are cheap arses for sure, but they've given us some good times. Sure they did squander some of that time we had under Klopp by being frugal... but overall we're a pretty self-sustaining club now that is enjoying a period of stability after decades of instability.

I doubt Salah goes anywhere else in England though and Real Madrid are already stacked in those forward positions. Barcelona are in financial shit and I don't think the Italian clubs will offer Salah a better deal than Liverpool either.

That basically leaves Bayern and PSG. I don't think Paris holds much appeal now that Neymar, Messi and Mbappe have all been and gone without showing you can win the Champions League with them. I assume they still have the cash to make him a silly offer though.

So maybe Bayern have the "new challenge" appeal and PSG have the "here's a Cristiano Ronaldo level salary without having to lower yourself to the Saudi retirement league" appeal but neither seem like a slam dunk to me in terms of being worth leaving Liverpool in their current circumstances.

I don't really know about the central defensive options of clubs across the continent so maybe Van Dijk does have more likely suitors. It just seems weird that either of them would leave Liverpool now when they could probably win more major trophies between now and the end of a 2 year extension than they have in their whole time there up to now.

[Stan]

I can see Bayern going for him and they can get rid of Sane and a couple of others. Wonder if @Viva la FCB would take him

Van Dijk can probably go anywhere he wants as well. 

[LFCMike]

4 hours ago, Gooner said:

Do you think you'll think any differently if news comes out sometime in January that one of the three players have signed a pre contract with another team and will join them for next season? 

I'm with you now on the current contract situation as on the pitch no one seems concerned and that's the most important thing. 

I don't think so no. I think all three are professional enough to not let anything like that affect their performances. Their form this season is proof of that. I think Salah and VVD renew anyway. Trent I've no idea, think he's probably gone. 

[LFCMike]

31 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

 

It's an absolutely idiotic position FSG's got us in with probably our 3 most important players all having their contracts expire at the same time, so I understand why some of my fellow LFC fans are pissed off.

 

You can't just ignore the fact that Klopp told them he was leaving in about November last year (publicly announced in January) has played a massive role in us getting to this point. It's not a criticism of Klopp, it's just a fact. They couldn't start negotiating when the three had about 18 months left because they didn't even know who the next manager was going to be. The players had every right to hold out and see how things went under the new manager.

[LFCMike]

1 hour ago, Rick said:

I’m not letting it spoil anything. But it is a bit mental that we haven’t heard a single thing in 5 month. 

It's not really because these things don't happen over night. It's not a case of just giving all three whatever wage and length of contract they want.

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, LFCMike said:

You can't just ignore the fact that Klopp told them he was leaving in about November last year (publicly announced in January) has played a massive role in us getting to this point. It's not a criticism of Klopp, it's just a fact. They couldn't start negotiating when the three had about 18 months left because they didn't even know who the next manager was going to be. The players had every right to hold out and see how things went under the new manager.

The players had every right to hold out, but the club definitely could have started negotiations earlier.

[Viva la FCB+]

4 hours ago, Stan said:

I can see Bayern going for him and they can get rid of Sane and a couple of others. Wonder if @Viva la FCB would take him

Van Dijk can probably go anywhere he wants as well. 

Idk man Im still scarred over the Mane ordeal. 

[LFCMike]

10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The players had every right to hold out, but the club definitely could have started negotiations earlier.

I mean there's every chance they tried and were told they want to see who the new manager is?

[Dr. Gonzo]

3 hours ago, LFCMike said:

I mean there's every chance they tried and were told they want to see who the new manager is?

The public statements of Mo & Virgil indicate that hasn’t been the case though.

[Dr. Gonzo]

18 hours ago, Viva la FCB said:

Idk man Im still scarred over the Mane ordeal. 

Good good, tell every club all about this ordeal.

Although honestly Salah’s always been on another level to Mane. There was a time where some people were saying Mane was the better of the 2, but I don’t think I ever saw or understood why.

He’s probably the best Liverpool player in my lifetime, even better than Stevie. And there’s a good case he’s our best player since Dalglish.

I think it’d be criminal if we let him leave.

[Viva la FCB+]

47 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Good good, tell every club all about this ordeal.

Although honestly Salah’s always been on another level to Mane. There was a time where some people were saying Mane was the better of the 2, but I don’t think I ever saw or understood why.

He’s probably the best Liverpool player in my lifetime, even better than Stevie. And there’s a good case he’s our best player since Dalglish.

I think it’d be criminal if we let him leave.

Yeah I feel you, I was mostly talk tongue in cheek.. but seriously have I mentioned Mane was a disaster  I haven't seen anything even linking the idea to us before and I just assumed hes staying with you guys, I hope he does anyways. 

Its an interesting time for us as well as we have a handful of contract/personnel decisions coming up here too. The main one is Kimmich's contract expiring in the summer for example. To a lesser extent Sane but most of our wing players are pretty up in the air.  

[LFCMike]

58 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Good good, tell every club all about this ordeal.

Although honestly Salah’s always been on another level to Mane. There was a time where some people were saying Mane was the better of the 2, but I don’t think I ever saw or understood why.

He’s probably the best Liverpool player in my lifetime, even better than Stevie. And there’s a good case he’s our best player since Dalglish.

I think it’d be criminal if we let him leave.

Agree with everything you say on Salah. Mane was unbelievable that season we won the league though. The amount of important goals he scored was unbelievable. Goals that were either winners or to break the deadlock in tight games.

[LFCMike]

So Liverpool have knocked back Real Madrid over signing TAA in January

[Dr. Gonzo]

31 minutes ago, LFCMike said:

Agree with everything you say on Salah. Mane was unbelievable that season we won the league though. The amount of important goals he scored was unbelievable. Goals that were either winners or to break the deadlock in tight games.

Mane was for sure a top player for us. I just think Salah’s always been on a different level

[Harry]

On 09/04/2024 at 04:03, Dr. Gonzo said:

 

Wow

[LFCMike]

5 hours ago, Harry said:

Wow

Liverpool were never close to agreeing anything with Amorim