The Palace Fan Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 29 Administrator Share Posted May 29 Protecting the big clubs once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Why are they even doing this? It's not like big clubs don't regularly make the final for this cup (or any domestic cup final). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted May 29 Subscriber Share Posted May 29 Can't be having clubs like Port Vale making the quarter finals again can we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 5 hours ago, Stan said: Protecting the big clubs once again. 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Why are they even doing this? It's not like big clubs don't regularly make the final for this cup (or any domestic cup final). Champions League and Europa League expansion taking up more midweeks, and aren't always in the same midweek. Champions League first league stage fixtures are the week of 17th September. Europa League doesn't start until the next week. Seeding is to keep the teams in different competitions apart. Otherwise there is no day available to play the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 29 Administrator Share Posted May 29 36 minutes ago, ScoRoss said: Champions League and Europa League expansion taking up more midweeks, and aren't always in the same midweek. Champions League first league stage fixtures are the week of 17th September. Europa League doesn't start until the next week. Seeding is to keep the teams in different competitions apart. Otherwise there is no day available to play the game. Funny how managers are quick to point the finger at domestic cups for 'fixture congestion' but not heard many, if any, managers shout out at the Champions League expansion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted May 29 Subscriber Share Posted May 29 18 minutes ago, Stan said: Funny how managers are quick to point the finger at domestic cups for 'fixture congestion' but not heard many, if any, managers shout out at the Champions League expansion... Been saying this for years. Never been any talk of reforming the Champions League to have a streamlined group stage or get rid of two-legged knockout rounds until the QFs, or have just the group winner go through into a last eight, etc. Instead they've added more and more European fixtures. Even in Europa, there was a time where the group stage was 5 teams and everyone would play once so four fixtures overall. Nowadays it's six games. Having 3rd placed teams drop from the Champions League group stage to the Europa League knockout is unnecessary and extra fixtures as well. I love European football. The Europa League is often more interesting than the Champions League in my opinion, just for the variety. I like the Conference League concept as well. The more fans that can see their club play across the continent, the better. Everyone knows though that expanding European football is the real cause of fixture congestion. It's about time the managers of top clubs and the other powers that be just admit they're prioritising the big franchise clubs and European competition because it makes them all more money and drop this pretend concern about fixture congestion. It's insulting. At least if they admit the truth we can just add it to the list of ways that the rampant capitalism that has been invited into the sport has changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 37 minutes ago, Stan said: Funny how managers are quick to point the finger at domestic cups for 'fixture congestion' but not heard many, if any, managers shout out at the Champions League expansion... In Scotland, they've had to move all of the League Cup games to weekends and have scraped the winter break to be able to fit in all the domestic fixtures amongst the expanded European competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted May 29 Subscriber Share Posted May 29 Funny how many people fell for the brinkmanship. All the fixture congestion complaints have ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 I don't mind it to be honest. One of the biggest criticisms towards the scrap of FA Cup replays was the occasional team would miss out on revenue generated from a replay. This ensures multiple teams get the opportunity for a bumper pay day every season. With the way football is heading as well, season tickets are going to be a thing of the past. Premier League clubs know they can make a lot more money per head on tourists than a local diehard fan. So early cup ties may be your best chance to see a big club (or watch your big club) if you have a young family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I dont like it, that said chelsea and ourselves can draw on of the 6 in the 3rd round but I still think when big sides draw early it can create a path for smaller teams to make their way through Most will play weak squad until the later rounds anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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