Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted November 11 Subscriber Posted November 11 12 hours ago, Dan said: Man Utd fans must think we're an absolute joke of a club. We must be the only ones in the country scared of going to that ground in 2024. 3-0 today. 5-2 last week. 3-0 in 2023. It's absolutely pathetic. We haven't beaten them in about 6 years while they've been handing out wins left, right and centre. You're not alone. Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted November 11 Subscriber Posted November 11 45 minutes ago, Cicero said: 6 years. Funny. Try 12. Try it being home and away . You've beaten Man Utd just a few months ago because I remember them doing an absolute banter era Man Utd and conceding two goals in stoppage time. Quote
MUFC Posted November 11 Posted November 11 8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: 1 point separates 3rd and 9th and 4 points separates 3 and 13th. To me it seems like he’s really just squeaking by with how tight things are in the table at the moment. I think he’ll be under real pressure by Christmas if Spurs don’t have a positive run. Quote
Gunnersaurus Posted November 11 Posted November 11 10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: 1 point separates 3rd and 9th and 4 points separates 3 and 13th. To me it seems like he’s really just squeaking by with how tight things are in the table at the moment. I think he’ll be under real pressure by Christmas if Spurs don’t have a positive run. Maybe but I think it's to early to panic. I'm not sure if sacking managers after a few bad results is a good thing. Quote
Dr. Gonzo Posted November 11 Posted November 11 50 minutes ago, Gunnersaurus said: Maybe but I think it's to early to panic. I'm not sure if sacking managers after a few bad results is a good thing. Yeah I can see why an Arsenal fan would want Ange to stay Quote
Gunnersaurus Posted November 11 Posted November 11 @Dr. Gonzo ha ha no its not that mate. I just think at times football can be toxic. I don't think sacking managers all the time helps. Quote
Subscriber Dan+ Posted November 11 Subscriber Posted November 11 10 hours ago, RandoEFC said: We haven't beaten them in about 6 years while they've been handing out wins left, right and centre. You're not alone. Three straight hammerings is embarrassing imo. I don't even expect us to go there and win but we're getting frequently rolled there in their absolute worst state. It's a wasted opportunity as much as anything. I'm really unimpressed with us. Frankly lucky to be where we are. Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted November 12 Subscriber Posted November 12 8 hours ago, Dan said: Three straight hammerings is embarrassing imo. I don't even expect us to go there and win but we're getting frequently rolled there in their absolute worst state. It's a wasted opportunity as much as anything. I'm really unimpressed with us. Frankly lucky to be where we are. I am hoping that the Leicester situation works out perfectly for us where Cooper gets to stay longer than he should because the early flurry of points keeps you in contention to stay up for most of the season. I don't think we'll get relegated still but I do think both Palace and Wolves have a higher ceiling than we do under our current manager and it could end up being us or Leicester. If you changed to a half-decent manager then that scenario might seriously worry me. Not that I'm totally unworried anyway because Cooper is a fluky manager despite being absolutely rubbish overall at this level. Quote
Subscriber Dan+ Posted November 12 Subscriber Posted November 12 9 hours ago, RandoEFC said: I am hoping that the Leicester situation works out perfectly for us where Cooper gets to stay longer than he should because the early flurry of points keeps you in contention to stay up for most of the season. I don't think we'll get relegated still but I do think both Palace and Wolves have a higher ceiling than we do under our current manager and it could end up being us or Leicester. If you changed to a half-decent manager then that scenario might seriously worry me. Not that I'm totally unworried anyway because Cooper is a fluky manager despite being absolutely rubbish overall at this level. That is pretty much exactly what I expect to pan out. Where we've had some luck against Ipswich and Southampton probably is a bit of a false flag in the long run because all it serves to do is keep a bad manager in post before it's too late. I've seen with the way they just let Rodgers rot everything in 2022/23 that they are not proactive. The only thing that gives me any hope is that Rodgers did have genuine credit in the bank here and Cooper has virtually none, as well as him being a lot tougher to get rid of due to his contract. They did prove though in time they would get rid - they just did it at the dumbest possible time. I have seen enough from Cooper. He's totally out of his depth at this level. A poor coach who the players clearly don't really respect, the fans don't really support and was only appointed on the pretence of us being in a far weaker bargaining position than it turned out we were in. We would be criticised by the media but their track record tells me this would be a good thing anyway. There is nothing being built, no foundations being laid, we're just throwing teams out hoping for the best and quite often we're finding it. But then I don't think you can rely on playing Ipswich or Southampton going down to 10 men every week. Cooper out. Quote
6666 Posted November 12 Posted November 12 On 10/11/2024 at 16:40, RandoEFC said: When does the question get genuinely asked about Ange? I don't think it's controversial to say that an unpopular or unglamorous manager would be the subject of a lot more media scrutiny with the same results. What's a realistic goal that Ange should be meeting is the question. Being around 5th-7th is normal for them right now I'd say and only Man City & Liverpool have won more games. Quote
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