Guest Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 10 hours ago, Lucas said: I used to like him. I liked his cheeky swagger, his arrogance. He was one of the few managers I'd actually wait to hear speak after games or before. But he's lost the aura around him and turned into a petty, miserable old man. That second stint at Chelsea was what finished him off. I feel like it drained him. The moment it started to go tits up, falling out with the female physio and all that palava, he's gone on a downward spiral fast and where there was probably a split in his favour previously, I think it's swung the other way these days and the majority couldn't give a monkey's fuck what comes out his mouth. Boring. Me to. He's always been arrogant. But he had a kind of swagger that made him likable before. That has gone now and he's just a moaning old twat. I think that is probably why he isn't so good. He has lost his people skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 54 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: He has lost his people skills He had people skills before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, SirBalon said: He had people skills before? Well yeah I think so. Don't think you can be a great manager without them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, Gunnersauraus said: Well yeah I think so. Don't think you can be a great manager without them Oh right, I get it. You meant motivational skills for his team and not people skills as in how to socially interact when wanting to express a point of view in terms of an analisis of the outcome of your game. Over passionate and obviously blind to the facts isn’t the material necessary to be able to use people skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 15 hours ago, Fusion said: Next year will be our year mate. Zero chance of that, the Pep premier league era has began! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Happy Blue said: Zero chance of that, the Pep premier league era has began! Would of been good to see fergie v pep for a few years see who won more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: Would of been good to see fergie v pep for a few years see who won more Probably Pep. He's taken the piss out of SAF in two finals, not to mention with SAF's 2 man midfield, they would get dominated literally at every occasion. 4-4-2 rarely works nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Gunnersauraus said: Would of been good to see fergie v pep for a few years see who won more Looking at the United team at the end of slur Alex's era, Pep wouldn't of had too many problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted December 28, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted December 28, 2017 Always said Fergie got out at the right time. I think he was finally on his downward trajectory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, Dan said: Always said Fergie got out at the right time. I think he was finally on his downward trajectory. Jose missed his swan song with Chelsea ..now he's just embarrassing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Yeah but that 90s midfield im would have something to say. Plus fergie had relentless motivation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: Yeah but that 90s midfield in the 90s would have something to say. Plus fergie had relentless motivation Pretty sure a false 9 with Messi and a midfield of Xavi, Iniesta, and Busquets would run circles around Roy Keane and Paul Scholes. Roy Keane would get sent off in frustration. Football has evolved, and that Barca team's philosphy was revolutionary. That many men in midfield would dominate SAF's 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, Cicero said: Pretty sure a false 9 with Messi and a midfield of Xavi, Iniesta, and Busquets would run circles around Roy Keane and Paul Scholes. Roy Keane would get sent off in frustration. Football has evolved, and that Barca team's philosphy was revolutionary. That many men in midfield would dominate SAF's 4-4-2 Yeah but I'm on about man city not Barcelona. This man city side is great but not sure if sides are as good as fergies best sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 His meltdown was worse than mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 We can go 16pts clear tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted December 30, 2017 Administrator Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Happy Blue said: We can go 16pts clear tomorrow you're gonna win next season's title in a few months at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Stan said: you're gonna win next season's title in a few months at this rate. Shame the extra points don't carry over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Even in victory he manages to turn things sour with a bizarre outburst about Paul Scholes, now make of Paul Scholes as a pundit what you will but his attack on him and then attempt to boast about his managerial achievements was extraordinary. He can't seem to leave any perceived slight and is now pissing off a lot of people behind the scenes at Manchester United. I think he'll be gone within a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 If there's one person who irritates as much as mourinho it's scholes. He is possibly one of the worst pundits I have ever seen. So I did find it we quite funny what mourinho said. Just need him remind Roy Keane of his managerial record now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 30/12/2017 at 9:31 PM, Happy Blue said: Shame the extra points don't carry over You'd be way behind utd if they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 What the fuck is wrong with this man? Quote "It is not Paul's fault that he made much more money than Paul Scholes. It is not Paul Pogba's fault, it's just the way football is. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11192549/manchester-uniteds-jose-mourinho-hits-back-at-paul-scholes-criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted January 2, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted January 2, 2018 He's turning on people he won't beat. He won't see next Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just imagine the scenes if Antonio Conte came out and tore strips off someone like Lampard or Drogba. Or if Klopp gave a mouthful to Gerrard or Carragher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 I don't think Scholes said much wrong, he's not been out of the game long and he if anyone knows what it takes to play for United. I reckon Mourinhos just deflecting but I doubt Scholes would care that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 This (as someone mentioned above) goes way beyond what Manchester City coached by Guardiola is doing that's making Mourinho fall apart. It doesn't help and it's added more fuel to the fire but all I can cite are his experiences in Spain where he totally lost it in press conferences in exactly the same fashion. What I'm saying is that this isn't a novelty and it isn't Mourinho having collapsed recently... This is just simply the way he is and the thing that seems to be hurting him the most, much more that Man City's lead is the fact he's being questioned by seemingly all quarters of the football enviroment from present and past football people and now also the media as a whole. The situation got so bad with mental public explosions in Spain that halfway through his final season most post-match press conferences were held by his assistant back then, Aitor Karanka. His outbursts were even worse than these ones although I get he's making the headlines because it's unusual for something to happen consistently like this in England. Remember that he threw his players at Real Madrid under the bus too with the Iker Casillas situation being infamous, but Ramos, Özil and even compatriots like Pepe and Cristiano Ronaldo couldn't stand him anymore and would throw jibes at eachother via the press. Infact from what I remember, only Álvaro Arbeloa defended him like he was a relation (actually continues to do so via social media). Then we have what occurred at his second stint at Chelsea where he also lost the dressing room and had that bizarre public battle with one of the medical team (Eva Cerneiro)... If my memory serves me right even at his first stint at Chelsea there were some words of dissent from a couple of players but haven't bothered to check so as to confirm this. So it's nothing new... The only difference is that in this country people seemed to enjoy all that back then and now they've grown sick of it because they see it for what it always was which is a man that doesn't know how to lose and has some sort of obsessive disorder with himself and everything that surrounds him publicly. People used to think it was some sort of premeditated plan to deflect attention off the team and onto himself which was hilarious to be honest, but could also be rather frustrating for those of us that could see true colours firmly inf front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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