Danny 1,878 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Disclaimer: We are aware Tesos masterbates endlessly to posters of Mourinho above his bedside whilst wearing a United-Real Madrid half and half top, no need to get so defensive in here 😊 Mourinho has called United childish after the draw to Leicester, combined with the tactics against big sides to avoid defeat rather than win the game (parking the bus)  as well as the constant negative messages to players (Luke Shaw, Mkhitaryan) are things going to fall apart soon or is it the kickstart of a run of form to attempt to catch City? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 2,777 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I think he could completely lose his shit by the end of the season. They've actually had a very good first half of the season but the way City are going about things, showing up Mourinho's shit on a stick approach after both spending huge amounts of money, could tip him over the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,038 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 The wheels are off and the fucking engine blew more than a gasket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,557 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 They didn't even finish top 4 last season. To be where they are on course for 84 points is half decent, only 3-6 points less than what would win the league most seasons. It's Mourinho's ego that is the problem. Man City being phenomenal has rattled the fuck out of him 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,558 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Apparently he also called Chelsea players childish shortly before his latest stint there came to an end. It's not his fault that Man City are killing this season but it is his fault that he hasn't been more competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 6,921 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 His team are nowhere near as good as City but because they started so well he probably thinks they shouldn't have fallen this far behind. If they finish 2nd it's a good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,880 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, Stan said: Apparently he also called Chelsea players childish shortly before his latest stint there came to an end. It's not his fault that Man City are killing this season but it is his fault that he hasn't been more competitive. He individually selected certain players and threw them under the bus. Matic being one of them yet the bloke couldn't wait to sign for United. Strange. Usually takes him 3 seasons before total capitulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,340 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It’s amusing that his ego thinks PSG actually want him. They play good football and dick everyone in their league. Why would they want him again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 6,921 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 40 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: It’s amusing that his ego thinks PSG actually want him. They play good football and dick everyone in their league. Why would they want him again? They're all about making themselves look like an elite European club aren't they? Signing Mourinho would be another typical vanity signing for them, I can easily see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcanuck 123 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Not overly worried yet, just a bump in the road. This was always going to take a few years to get it right, United were in horrible shape after LVG was fired, just give it another couple of transfer windows. Sure Mourinho is frustrated, but I am not sure he has ever been completely happy.  Mourinho is just being Mourinho, he is disappointed that City are out of sight, that Pogba has missed half the season for one reason or another, that some players have slumped, but I still believe he gets it right in the end. But he is never ever going to be happy or stop being a miserable bugger. Even with all the money United have spent, a lot of it unwisely, they are still 3 or 4 top players short.  In all honesty, they are not good enough to win the Premier or the Champions League and I am sure Mourinho knows that.  However, we are are a lot better than we were under Moyer or LVG. If United go a couple more rounds in the Champions League, have a good run in the FA cup and finish 2nd or 3rd, I think that's a good year.  The way City is playing and you must take your hat off to them, I sure any team would take that.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor 676 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) Despite despising that prick, I actually think Man Utd are having a really good season. It's just that City have been special. Any other season, Utd would have been leading the table. The fact that they are carving out results in all kinds of ways: playing attacking (sometimes) , negative or just being plain lucky(Arsenal match) is actually something Championship winning teams do. But they are not getting any credit because City have been special and also because Mourinho is an utterly unlikeable human being. Edited December 24, 2017 by IgnisExcubitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,038 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 If Pep's spending is what wins him trophies why don't other teams thst spunk cash have his success? Checkmate, atheists 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 267 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 He will always be second best to Pep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,880 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Spike said: If Pep's spending is what wins him trophies why don't other teams thst spunk cash have his success? Checkmate, atheists Proper recruitment and having a proper technical director and board. Sunk your battle ship. Your go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Considering all those combinations, Ranieri is the greatest coach in history!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 1,878 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Teso dos Bichos said: How many trophies did Pep and Klopp win in their first year? How many trophies has Poch won with spurs? His success? With arguably the best squad (Barcelona) how many CLs did he win with them? Surely with that type of squad full of legends he won at least 3 in a span of four years like zidane Love it, so rattled you're raging over Guardiola vs Zidane now 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,038 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Proper recruitment and having a proper technical director and board. Sunk your battle ship. Your go. Then why is that Pep's side continually have that? Could it be that being a competent manager leads to competent staff/competent staff management? Edited December 25, 2017 by Spike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,038 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) First season success... didn't Pep win a treble with Barcelona? @SirBalon correct me if I'm wrong... Edited December 25, 2017 by Spike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,880 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Spike said: Then why is that Pep's side continually have that? Could it be that being a competent manager leads to competent staff/competent staff management? Barca and Bayern are elite clubs. And City have been preparing for Pep since 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,038 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Barca and Bayern are elite clubs. And City have been preparing for Pep since 2013. United and Chelsea aren't elite clubs? PSG hasn't had a stack team for the last few years? What about Real? There was a period of time they were bumbling about, are they not also an elite club? Isn't the statment 'City have been preparing for Pep since 2013' pure speculation? Everything you've said has just been opinion, whereas Pep's success is a fact. Edited December 25, 2017 by Spike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,685 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 15 hours ago, Kitchen Sales said: They didn't even finish top 4 last season. To be where they are on course for 84 points is half decent, only 3-6 points less than what would win the league most seasons. It's Mourinho's ego that is the problem. Man City being phenomenal has rattled the fuck out of him And then the City players tipped him over the edge by singing "park the bus, park the bus, man united, park the bus, park the bus i say, park the bus, park the bus man united, playing football the Mourinho way" at Old Trafford ...they rattled him so much he went to tell them to shut up and ended up with milk poured on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,685 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Teso dos Bichos said: Peps advantage was the board! They went out and splashed silly money! You spent 200million  ...and you are still shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,880 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Spike said: United and Chelsea aren't elite clubs? PSG hasn't had a stack team for the last few years? What about Real? There was a period of time they were bumbling about, are they not also an elite club? Isn't the statment 'City have been preparing for Pep since 2013' pure speculation? Everything you've said has just been opinion, whereas Pep's success is a fact. When HB says it's true,  it's anything but speculation. And Pep drugs his players. Facts. Cicero 1 Spike 0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue 900 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I've heard Jose always delivers in his second season in charge, so far so good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Spike said: First season success... didn't Pep win a treble with Barcelona? @SirBalon correct me if I'm wrong... Yeah mate, but fortunately he inherited a bunch of legends who had been messing around for a few years waiting for Guardiola to make it as a youth coach... He was also lucky to find so many legends in Barça’s ‘B’ and ‘C’ side. A great coach, true great coach is one like Mou who gets unknowns without spending too much and then in a couple of seasons turning them into Champions and at times even winning the Champions League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 1,878 Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, SirBalon said: Yeah mate, but fortunately he inherited a bunch of legends who had been messing around for a few years waiting for Guardiola to make it as a youth coach... He was also lucky to find so many legends in Barça’s ‘B’ and ‘C’ side. A great coach, true great coach is one like Mou who gets unknowns without spending too much and then in a couple of seasons turning them into Champions and at times even winning the Champions League. When has he done that other than at Porto? Mourinho is one of the biggest spenders going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,669 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Danny said: When has he done that other than at Porto? Mourinho is one of the biggest spenders going. In saying all that, Mourinho is actually doing a very good job at United. It’s only due to City’s incredible football that United aren’t able to live with that. Mourinho can’t reproduce situations such as what Guardiola is manufacturing. All top coaches spend money because they tend to be at top clubs and to ascertain domination you need excellence in a firm squad. The problem with Mourinho is that he spends like others and reproduces what I personally consider to be rancid football coupled with rancid personal attitudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,880 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Danny said: When has he done that other than at Porto? Mourinho is one of the biggest spenders going. What was his spending at Inter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,038 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, Cicero said: What was his spending at Inter? Pretty high but not by today's standards. He bought some right shite at Inter amongst some gold. Milito, Motta, Sneijder, Quaresma, Mancini, Muntari, amd of course Eto'o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 1,878 Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Cicero said: What was his spending at Inter? Well they sold Ibrahimovic for a shitload and then made a few on some others, according to transfermrkt they would have spent around £84m in his second season in charge and his first was nearly £60m, so over the course of two seasons back then that's being able to spend money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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