Honey Honey Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Election tomorrow. Who will you be voting for @VanPanna and @Panflute I heard in finance rumours that Jeroen Dijsselbloem will lose power. Is that true? Hope it is, austerity wanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Is their a nationalist party that is gaining traction in the Netherlands? A la Marie le Pen and her people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Wilder, I imagine he will do very well. I have no problem with his criticism of Islam but the mask has slipped many a time; he's also a devotee of Israel and parrots their line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Wilders largest party, he won't see power though because of a coalition formed by the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowabunga Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: Wilders largest party, he won't see power though because of a coalition formed by the others. As I told you back then at TFF, little hope has Wilders to do anything taking into account the proportional system the Netherlands follows. And polling at 15-20 % is even worse than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowabunga Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Is Jesse Klaver the Dutch Trudeau? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Kowabunga said: As I told you back then at TFF, little hope has Wilders to do anything taking into account the proportional system the Netherlands follows. And polling at 15-20 % is even worse than expected. I don't really care much about polling trending negative towards right wingers in the final stretch it's almost a pat on the back now. I just said he won't see power, I don't think Le Pen will either for what it's worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Wilders will not win. He is a terrible campaigner. First thing tomorrow, I will vote for Thierry Baudet and his Forum voor Democratie, the most promising Dutch politician I have seen in my lifetime. As for the coalition, unless we have major upsets, it will probably a centrist government with VVD of Mark Rutte as the biggest party, joined by CDA (christian-democrats), D66 (progressive centrists) and Groen Links (Greens/Left-centrist liberals). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 A while ago, I also wrote an article that goes more in-depth about how the Dutch electoral system works and why Wilders is overhyped. Might be of interest to those who want to know more: https://epeuthutebetes.wordpress.com/2017/02/16/dutch-elections-wilders-beyond/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Wilders has already kind of won, even though he has no chance to get into power, he has grown due to the fundamental problems with the integration of Islam in the Netherlands and Europe when other politicians have just stuck their head in the sand over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, VanPanna said: Wilders has already kind of won, even though he has no chance to get into power, he has grown due to the fundamental problems with the integration of Islam in the Netherlands and Europe when other politicians have just stuck their head in the sand over it. Very similar with Farage, UKIP didn't win many seats but polling and their numbers ensured that established parties made overtures to their votes and kept to it. It's only because of Farage & UKIP's performance in the lead up to and actual election that we have Brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: Very similar with Farage, UKIP didn't win many seats but polling and their numbers ensured that established parties made overtures to their votes and kept to it. It's only because of Farage & UKIP's performance in the lead up to and actual election that we have Brexit Thats about right, Wilders is too much extreme on the other side but it does show that a country has a big problem that someone like him is getting attention, I have seen first hand that the Netherlands has a problem but Wilders isnt the answer to solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I was among the first at my polling station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 @Panflute - I know America's standpoint, but I am interested on why the Dutch also seem to be very adamant about limiting specifically Islamic Immigrants? Is it as simple as the fact that ISIS and over Islamic Terrorists group are still about or is it just an immigration issue, and not limited to just Muslims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I stumbled onto Harald Doornbos' Twitter handle. I found this thread interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 hours ago, ATL said: @Panflute - I know America's standpoint, but I am interested on why the Dutch also seem to be very adamant about limiting specifically Islamic Immigrants? Is it as simple as the fact that ISIS and over Islamic Terrorists group are still about or is it just an immigration issue, and not limited to just Muslims? Because we have more than enough of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Another in-depth article by me:https://epeuthutebetes.wordpress.com/2017/03/15/thierry-baudet-the-rising-star-of-dutch-politics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 When are results expected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 hours ago, ATL said: @Panflute - I know America's standpoint, but I am interested on why the Dutch also seem to be very adamant about limiting specifically Islamic Immigrants? Is it as simple as the fact that ISIS and over Islamic Terrorists group are still about or is it just an immigration issue, and not limited to just Muslims? From what I've seen they don't integrate and create ghettos. Kinda the same thing is happening France and Sweden. Nobody wants to invite a guest into their house only for the guest to break all the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said: When are results expected? The voting booths close in a little over an hour, and the first exit polls are expected in the subsequent half-an-hour. The results will then be counted, and a definitive prognosis should be here before midnight. The prognosis usually has a margin of error of 2 seats max. Tomorrow around 7am, the definitive results are expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm fucking nervous, my dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Any chance Baudet wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 You can't *win* Dutch elections due to the coalition system. The article explains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Voting booths in The Hague and Rotterdam are open longer due to high turnout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 David Cameron's only European friend has won then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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