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Does or will Gareth Southgate deserve an apology?

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I think we all know where this is coming from but all that bad talk on Gareth Southgate’s tenure to date has had quite a bit of bad mouthing. We all remember the moments during qualifying for the World Cup and also many friendlies.

Who’s gonna start the ball rolling or who wants to wait?

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I like the atmosphere he has created around the team.and he carries himself well.

As far as tactics go, I don't think we've seen anything particuarly inspiring so far. They keep the ball okay but only threat seems to be set pieces, maybe Allardyce's brief spell will be decisive? 

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1 hour ago, SirBalon said:

I think we all know where this is coming from but all that bad talk on Gareth Southgate’s tenure to date has had quite a bit of bad mouthing. We all remember the moments during qualifying for the World Cup and also many friendlies.

Who’s gonna start the ball rolling or who wants to wait?

Name names mate... 

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Jury is still out on how good at the footballing side he is. The tests are getting greater but there are a lot more levels of the game to complete.

He's the epitome of a true gent and I think that we haven't so far collapsed to someone we shouldn't is in large part the result of the man he is. Team spirit and character seems to stem from the leadership of Southgate and Kane.

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pretty sure I backed him from the start :) 

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LOOKING BACK ON WHERE WE FIRST MET

I CANNOT ESCAPE AND I CANNOT FORGET

SOUTHGATE YOU'RE THE ONE

YOU STILL TURN ME ON

FOOTBALL'S COMING HOME AGAIN!!!

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11 hours ago, Bluewolf said:

Name names mate... 

I thought about digging up old posts (I can’t go back to the old forum for obvious reasons) because I’ve been reading back some of them. I always maintained that Southgate was the perfect candidate and this isn’t an “I told you so” to give me some credit points... It’s just that he brought many of these guys through the ranks and lived the youth international setup.

Why bring up member’s old comments now when people are so emotional and experiencing a wonderful moment.

Everyone knows who they are! xD

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5 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

I thought about digging up old posts (I can’t go back to the old forum for obvious reasons) because I’ve been reading back some of them. I always maintained that Southgate was the perfect candidate and this isn’t an “I told you so” to give me some credit points... It’s just that he brought many of these guys through the ranks and lived the youth international setup.

Why bring up member’s old comments now when people are so emotional and experiencing a wonderful moment.

Everyone knows who they are! xD

England U21s under Southgate were absolute garbage. He also took Boro down. If he achieves something at this world cup it just goes to show the power of luck and the fortune of being in the right place at the right time.

It further destroys the Tory philosophy that you get what you deserve in life and that hierarchy forms by ability.

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16 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

I thought about digging up old posts (I can’t go back to the old forum for obvious reasons) because I’ve been reading back some of them. I always maintained that Southgate was the perfect candidate and this isn’t an “I told you so” to give me some credit points... It’s just that he brought many of these guys through the ranks and lived the youth international setup.

Why bring up member’s old comments now when people are so emotional and experiencing a wonderful moment.

Everyone knows who they are! xD

why not?

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34 minutes ago, Stan said:

why not?

It’s closed down isn’t it?

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38 minutes ago, Harvsky said:

England U21s under Southgate were absolute garbage. He also took Boro down. If he achieves something at this world cup it just goes to show the power of luck and the fortune of being in the right place at the right time.

It further destroys the Tory philosophy that you get what you deserve in life and that hierarchy forms by ability.

Mate... Then under that philosophy we can abstain from ever giving credit to any international coach. 

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6 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

It’s closed down isn’t it?

nah it isn't. can still access it.

 

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4 minutes ago, Stan said:

nah it isn't. can still access it.

 

Interesting... :eek:

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9 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

Interesting... :eek:

:thumbdown:

you should see some of the posts you used to make. wow.

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1 minute ago, Stan said:

you should see some of the posts you used to make. wow.

I was so good back then wasn’t I. :ph34r:

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7 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

I was so good back then wasn’t I. :ph34r:

literally you
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59 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

Mate... Then under that philosophy we can abstain from ever giving credit to any international coach. 

Possibly, you can still credit someone for an achievement because they still have to have the right goods in the first place. Still, Southgate winning the world cup would make a mockery of how we think of winning managers as some genius above all. For years people on here have debated whether Mourinho is the special one or just at the right clubs.

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3 hours ago, Stan said:

you should see some of the posts you used to make. wow.

I guess we finally know who chazz is then...

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3 hours ago, Harvsky said:

Possibly, you can still credit someone for an achievement because they still have to have the right goods in the first place. Still, Southgate winning the world cup would make a mockery of how we think of winning managers as some genius above all. For years people on here have debated whether Mourinho is the special one or just at the right clubs.

Think it just shows that there's much more to it than tactics. As many great managers have proven previously. 

Its about getting the team behind you,  instilling belief and getting enough good fortune in the early stages that gorges a reputation and the rest becomes a self fulfilling prophecy....

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4 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said:

Are you married  @SirBalon? I can imagine your wedding speech ;)

He got married in late 2016... If you go down to the back room of the Bull & Spectacles he is still going through the 'jokes' section of his speech at the moment... The guests have thinned down a tad from the original 40 that were invited and he is left with some bloke at the back in the corner that may probably have lapsed into a coma and has since passed away and there are 2 others, the cleaner and some local vagrant that sleeps there at night after a hard day of selling the big issue.. I don't think he has noticed that his missus has since run off with another bloke and filed for divorce because he is too busy laughing at his own jokes... 

He had planned to keep it short and I believe the whole thing could well be wrapped up just in time for the World Cup Final... If however he gets to page 5,103 and finds he has lost a page and then has to ad lib his way through then that could be the World Cup Final of 2022

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4 minutes ago, Bluewolf said:

He got married in late 2016... If you go down to the back room of the Bull & Spectacles he is still going through the 'jokes' section of his speech at the moment... The guests have thinned down a tad from the original 40 that were invited and he is left with some bloke at the back in the corner that may probably have lapsed into a coma and has since passed away and there are 2 others, the cleaner and some local vagrant that sleeps there at night after a hard day of selling the big issue.. I don't think he has noticed that his missus has since run off with another bloke and filed for divorce because he is too busy laughing at his own jokes... 

He had planned to keep it short and I believe the whole thing could well be wrapped up just in time for the World Cup Final... If however he gets to page 5,103 and finds he has lost a page and then has to ad lib his way through then that could be the World Cup Final of 2022

Flippin’ eck!

That’s beautiful mate!!! :rofl:

I love it and I love you!!!

One day I’ll recite the terrible speech I made in front of both sets of families and friends. It wasn’t very long (you’ll all be surprised to read) but it was ridiculous and I even managed to associate married life and what matrimony means with The romanticism with the old Highbury Stadium. :drunk: 

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1 hour ago, SirBalon said:

Flippin’ eck!

That’s beautiful mate!!! :rofl:

I love it and I love you!!!

One day I’ll recite the terrible speech I made in front of both sets of families and friends. It wasn’t very long (you’ll all be surprised to read) but it was ridiculous and I even managed to associate married life and what matrimony means with The romanticism with the old Highbury Stadium. :drunk: 

I'm amazed you find time to post on the forum while you're doing your wedding speech xD

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2 hours ago, SirBalon said:

Flippin’ eck!

That’s beautiful mate!!! :rofl:

I love it and I love you!!!

One day I’ll recite the terrible speech I made in front of both sets of families and friends. It wasn’t very long (you’ll all be surprised to read) but it was ridiculous and I even managed to associate married life and what matrimony means with The romanticism with the old Highbury Stadium. :drunk: 

How many times did you use the word protagonist?

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Right now, I would place them 4th most likely to win the world cup. Granted the teams I have 1-3 (in order) are Brazil, France, and Belgium, and they will cannibalize one another on the way to the final (Sorry Uruguay)

I think England has a great chance to make it to the final, where anything can happens, but I have no idea who anyone can complain about this campaign thus far from England. You (English) look great with what looks like a lot of young talent, and I'm not sure there is a striker left that I feel more passion from than Kane. 

It would still surprise me if England WON the tournament, but that's not we are discussing. I think Gareth has done a very good job in a year where we have seen a lot of 'heavy weights' fail early and are at home. 

 

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I still think Croatia have looked better than us.

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I think Argentina's shambles may have made Croatia look a bit better than they are, likewise France. I still think they are the best side on that side of the draw but Russia will be a test.

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To be honest, I don't think we've even played that well... we either had opponents that were totally inept (and even then we barely made it past Tunisia and Colombia) or we lost. This heavy reliance on penalties and set pieces is a bit of a worry as well. And we lucked out with big teams shitting the bed which has left us with a manageable road to the final.

I don't think much of it has been down to great management.

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6 hours ago, 6666 said:

To be honest, I don't think we've even played that well... we either had opponents that were totally inept (and even then we barely made it past Tunisia and Colombia) or we lost. This heavy reliance on penalties and set pieces is a bit of a worry as well. And we lucked out with big teams shitting the bed which has left us with a manageable road to the final.

I don't think much of it has been down to great management.

I think Southgate has set us up good defensively and focused on set pieces leading to the amount of penalty claims and efforts we've had from them. He's also relieved pressure off of them which has been evident before the tournament and was shown when we won a penalty shoot out.

He's been no Guardiola but has definitely been a large reason as to why we're in the quarter finals.

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