Bluebird Hewitt Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, nudge said: He just signed a new contract extension. Ah cheers for that. Wasn't aware he'd signed an extension. Shame Hamburg didn't go up for Glatzel to smash the Bundesliga. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted June 3, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted June 3, 2022 This may have been discussed somewhere else but I was curious about this excerpt from an article I read on The Athletic: He did, however, land a sneaky blow by reminding Tebas of last year’s European Court of Justice ruling that Barcelona, Real Madrid, Athletic Bilbao and Osasuna all benefited from illegal state aid for more than 20 years. This is to do with the Spanish authorities treating these member-run clubs as non-profit organisations, giving them a tax advantage over their rivals. The statement itself pertains to the PSG vs. Madrid debate that was later taken up by the Ligue 1 and La Liga presidents. More importantly though, does Germany consider member-run clubs as non-profits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, Coma said: This may have been discussed somewhere else but I was curious about this excerpt from an article I read on The Athletic: He did, however, land a sneaky blow by reminding Tebas of last year’s European Court of Justice ruling that Barcelona, Real Madrid, Athletic Bilbao and Osasuna all benefited from illegal state aid for more than 20 years. This is to do with the Spanish authorities treating these member-run clubs as non-profit organisations, giving them a tax advantage over their rivals. The statement itself pertains to the PSG vs. Madrid debate that was later taken up by the Ligue 1 and La Liga presidents. More importantly though, does Germany consider member-run clubs as non-profits? The answer is a firm yes and no. Principally clubs (organised as eV) are considered non-profit, most clubs decided to hive off their pro departements to companies (GmbH, AG, KGaA), though. These companies are considered profit-orientated in contrast to their mother clubs. On a side note only Schalke, Union, Mainz, and Freiburg are still pure eV's in the Buli, as far as I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted June 3, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted June 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: The answer is a firm yes and no. Principally clubs (organised as eV) are considered non-profit, most clubs decided to hive off their pro departements to companies (GmbH, AG, KGaA), though. These companies are considered profit-orientated in contrast to their mother clubs. On a side note only Schalke, Union, Mainz, and Freiburg are still pure eV's in the Buli, as far as I know. So just having an eV on their name is no longer an indication that they are non-profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Coma said: So just having an eV on their name is no longer an indication that they are non-profit? It's a bit more complicated. Simplified: the mother club's, that are eV are non-profit as such, this brings some implications, though. Non-profit organisations aren't allowed to be organised in a form other than one member one share. So if a club wants to sell shares to an investor, even when respecting the 50+1 rule, they have no choice other than to establish a profit-orientated company where they held 50% +1 share of the voting stakes. These companies are profit-orientated entities that are majority owned (at least nominally, see Saxon dishwater) by non profit organisations. The non-profit status of these majority holding mother clubs is unaffected by this procedure, though. In other words FC Augsburg eV, for example, that @Eco is a member of still is considered non-profit, although they are majority owners of profit-orientated company FCA Beteiligungs GmbH & Co KGaA, which are running their first team. Edited June 3, 2022 by Rucksackfranzose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subscriber Coma+ Posted June 17, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted June 17, 2022 Fixtures are out. Spieltag 1: Bayern at Frankfurt on Friday night Leverkusen at Dortmund Bremen at Wolfsburg Berlin derby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted June 17, 2022 Administrator Share Posted June 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Coma said: Fixtures are out. Spieltag 1: Berlin derby Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rucksackfranzose Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 18/06/2022 at 13:30, Tommy said: I feel old and stupid now for doing it, still I'd like to ask what that tweet means? Am too aged and dumb to understand this abbreviations and my google search didn't help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 20, 2022 Author Subscriber Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: I feel old and stupid now for doing it, still I'd like to ask what that tweet means? Am too aged and dumb to understand this abbreviations and my google search didn't help? I think Preetz just had a few beers too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted June 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: I feel old and stupid now for doing it, still I'd like to ask what that tweet means? Am too aged and dumb to understand this abbreviations and my google search didn't help? Preetz tried to tweet something and failed miserably. It's no abbreviations, just a bunch of gibberish. As nudge said, maybe he had a few beers too many and fell asleep on the keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted June 21, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted June 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Rucksackfranzose said: I feel old and stupid now for doing it, still I'd like to ask what that tweet means? Am too aged and dumb to understand this abbreviations and my google search didn't help? This will show up in a German football quiz in the future. I've been answering random questions with "Michael Preetz" and it's about to payoff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted June 22, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted June 22, 2022 For those of us who just can't decide on one team to follow: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted June 22, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted June 22, 2022 I don't get it. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted June 22, 2022 Author Subscriber Share Posted June 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Coma said: I don't get it. Am I missing something? Just a bunch of idiots who get up in the morning and eagerly search for something to be offended about. This time, they decided that a colour combination of dark blue-white-red reminds them too much of the Reichsfahne, so started a shitstorm online. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, nudge said: Just a bunch of idiots who get up in the morning and eagerly search for something to be offended about. This time, they decided that a colour combination of dark blue-white-red reminds them too much of the Reichsfahne, so started a shitstorm online. Sometimes I'm glad not having any social networks- spared me such nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted June 22, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, nudge said: Reichsfahne Ooooooh so that's what this is about. I just scrolled past a few things in my newsfeed where I read that the fans are unhappy with the shirt. I thought it was just about the colour not very "Kiel-like" or something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderator Tommy Posted July 3, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, Coma said: That's because nobody wants to see Wolfsburg as it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted July 3, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted July 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tommy said: That's because nobody wants to see Wolfsburg as it is. Maybe if they had a retractable roof... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted July 3, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted July 3, 2022 This is fantastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted July 4, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted July 4, 2022 @Rucksackfranzose you mentioned this somewhere along the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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