Cicero Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Sarri was right about this current crop. Need babysitting for every single thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 2 minutes ago, Lucas said: Going to be a busy summer for Chelsea from what I've seen Saturday and tonight. Not enough creative spark. They get to the edge of the area, draw a blank and run out of ideas. Very predictable. It actually wouldn't hurt them to try mix up their play a bit. Ludicrous to think they hold a six point cushion to 5th but then, everyone below them are just as bad. This is perhaps been the case for 3-4 years. Even with Hazard, I and the Chelsea fans on here banged on about how we needed more creativity and attacking threat. Without Hazard, you can imagine how it's got even worse. If Hazard had stuck around, we would have still needed better quality in attacking areas. The first half of the season we perhaps caught a lot of the league by surprise, with the energy and the young players, new manager and style. There was a lot of talk before the season of how we were going to miss Hazard but our relatively positive start swept most of that under the carpet. Teams, however, get used to other teams and games become more difficult as the season goes on and that happens to everyone in the league even the eventual champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted January 21, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, Dan said: England will be losing some coefficient points next season on these showings. Some serious dross is going to make the top 4. I was discussing this with my house mates (2 Chelsea 1 Liverpool) earlier on. We decided that every team in the league has reason to be embarrassed so far this season apart from Liverpool and Sheffield United. Leicester and Wolves could go either way. Everyone else has dreadfully underperformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 @carefreeluke Lampard is part of the problem if he’s pushing the club to offer Willian a new deal. Unbelievable. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, Cicero said: @carefreeluke Lampard is part of the problem if he’s pushing the club to offer Willian a new deal. Unbelievable. . Lee Dixon on my stream tonight said he is always the best thing about Chelsea, was literally in awe about him. If we continue relying on him to the extent we do, we will continue to be where we are, 4th at very best or Europa League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Credit to the team, very good result considering the circumstances. Still we create so many of our own issues, so many players stealing a living as well. I've been a bit sceptical with Arteta but I do think he has something about him, the main issue for me has always been the playing squad it just isn't good enough. Hopefully we can start clearing out the mess and actually make some decent signings in the upcoming windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted January 22, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2020 I got home for the second half of this with my house mates watching. My first thought was that Arsenal would probably quite happily have seen David Luiz get a red card if the trade-off was that Barkley was one of the 11 playing for the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Only the bottom two teams (Watford and Norwich) have won fewer Premier League games than Arsenal. Only Liverpool and wolves have lost fewer games than Arsenal. What a bizarre year they are having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I would say all four of United, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs need massive clear outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted January 22, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, Cicero said: I would say all four of United, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs need massive clear outs. Yep, and that includes Ed Woodpecker and the Glazers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, Cicero said: I would say all four of United, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs need massive clear outs. Yeah all four have been pretty rudderless in recent seasons, no real thought or process has gone into the building of their squads. A lot of money wasted, really hope we can look towards better signings with Arteta and Edu now being at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chaaay AFC said: Yeah all four have been pretty rudderless in recent seasons, no real thought or process has gone into the building of their squads. A lot of money wasted, really hope we can look towards better signings with Arteta and Edu now being at the club. Same with us and Cech. United seem genuinely hopeless with Woodward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Is the penny dropping about Abraham now? Seems like Lampard was looking to replace him before his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Lampard wanted to replace Giroud+Batshuayi, Not Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Then he's worse than I thought, think he must have an eye on a top striker too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Of course. Tammy is limited in his overall play. For every 5 chances he gets, he scores 1. His decision making is also very poor. That can be improved on, however I’m still adamant at best he can be our Danny Welbeck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I thought you couldn’t give a penalty and a red card? Or is that just for goalkeepers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Danny said: I thought you couldn’t give a penalty and a red card? Or is that just for goalkeepers? No you're correct but the rule is it has to be either accidental or you make a genuine attempt to win the ball. I think the Luiz one could've gone either way for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 23, 2020 Author Administrator Share Posted January 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Danny said: I thought you couldn’t give a penalty and a red card? Or is that just for goalkeepers? Can be for anyone if there's no attempt to win the ball. So if you're pulling the shirt of a player or deliberate handball for example to stop a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 18 hours ago, Cicero said: Of course. Tammy is limited in his overall play. For every 5 chances he gets, he scores 1. His decision making is also very poor. That can be improved on, however I’m still adamant at best he can be our Danny Welbeck. I don't think personally his decision making is that bad. He needs to be more clinical which is something @Fairy In Boots said about him last season at Villa. It's been a while since we've had a striker up there in the goal-scoring charts as well so at least he's scoring goals relatively consistently. I would say his movement and off the ball work is relatively good also. I would say the two areas where he needs to improve is first, as mentioned, be more clinical and the second is his overall influence on the game. His hold up play is improving but I think he can be more of a presence up there, more involved in the general play which might be what you're alluding to. He has the attributes to do that. I don't mean more of a presence in terms of physicality but in terms of on the ball involvement, get more touches of the ball and get others involved. Part of the issue though that goes against him is that we're not a team that regularly gets the ball into our striker, so his game involvement can be hindered a bit anyway. Under Conte, the striker used to be involved heavily in this regard. Overall, Abraham has been one of our better players this season, the next few years we will see if he improves and we will see his true ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 9 hours ago, carefreeluke said: I don't think personally his decision making is that bad. He needs to be more clinical which is something @Fairy In Boots said about him last season at Villa. It's been a while since we've had a striker up there in the goal-scoring charts as well so at least he's scoring goals relatively consistently. I would say his movement and off the ball work is relatively good also. I would say the two areas where he needs to improve is first, as mentioned, be more clinical and the second is his overall influence on the game. His hold up play is improving but I think he can be more of a presence up there, more involved in the general play which might be what you're alluding to. He has the attributes to do that. I don't mean more of a presence in terms of physicality but in terms of on the ball involvement, get more touches of the ball and get others involved. Part of the issue though that goes against him is that we're not a team that regularly gets the ball into our striker, so his game involvement can be hindered a bit anyway. Under Conte, the striker used to be involved heavily in this regard. Overall, Abraham has been one of our better players this season, the next few years we will see if he improves and we will see his true ceiling. Thing is he’s young and youth players are inconsistent, Tammy in decent teams will always turn in high teens goals per season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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