Everton 1-2 Burnley - Saturday 13th March, 2021

[RandoEFC+]

Still all three points on the table here if we want them, but somehow we've been worse since scoring. Very annoying as I think if we'd scored first it would have been fairly comfortable. 

[Whiskey]

Despite scoring, DCL has been poor.

[RandoEFC+]

I want a right back please. Holgate does a decent job but he offers nothing in attack.

[RandoEFC+]

Hard to tell whether the lack of urgency or lack of quality is the bigger problem.

[Whiskey]

Utter wank that 2nd half.

[Dave]

Think a break has come at the best time for Everton.

[RandoEFC+]

No excuses, we just weren't good enough again. Squad isn't good enough and we just have too many weaknesses. We haven't truly been in good form since the first 6 games of the season, we've just found a way to get results in close games more often than other teams. What's annoying though is that we are good enough to bear Burnley, Fulham, Leeds, Newcastle at home but we haven't, which means all of those brilliant away results we've got this season have gone to waste.

We have no business being in the top four but it's still a massive missed opportunity. We've done the hard bit in away games and against our direct rivals at home but results like this stop us from taking advantage of the poor campaigns of others. We have had and will have better seasons than this where we deserve to be up there more but won't be because other teams will be better than they have this season. Even Europe looks tricky now with the fixtures we have left and Spurs hitting form, West Ham not letting up and Liverpool probably improving for the run in.

So frustrating as it's these games which we used to win like clockwork that are letting us down.

[Whiskey]

Not beating Burnley doesn't come down to skill, it comes down to hunger. Not enough hungry people in our squad and too many happy to sit along and enjoy the ride. 

Said at the time the Josh King signing was bizarre too. Only sub appearances so far but not at all the standard we need.

[RandoEFC+]

7 minutes ago, Whiskey said:

Not beating Burnley doesn't come down to skill, it comes down to hunger. Not enough hungry people in our squad and too many happy to sit along and enjoy the ride. 

Said at the time the Josh King signing was bizarre too. Only sub appearances so far but not at all the standard we need.

Think he has potential as an impact player, but not out wide. He might do something playing up front but Ancelotti will (rightly) not take Calvert-Lewin or Richarlison off the pitch in almost any circumstances. I understand why we got him if Bernard was going to leave but then there are glaring problems elsewhere in the squad, mostly at right back, makes me wonder why in the same window we let Jonjoe Kenny leave and didn't look to recruit in that area. We're losing so much in attack by not having a full back who can offer even half of what Digne offers from the other side of the pitch.

[UNIQUE]

tbh you never know what your gonna get from everton. i thought they would win this 3-1 tbh. this is why the EPL is the best lge in the world. 

[Devil-Dick Willie]

2 hours ago, Whiskey said:

 

Pickford off is fucking worrying, playing our Academy lad in goal now.

Liverpool fans be like 

[Dan+]

Glorious. Well done Burnley. We need absolutely shooting if we blow it tomorrow.

[Scouse_Mouse]

2 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said:

Liverpool fans be like 

 

I won't be a hypocrite and say I was sorry to hear this.

Hopefully Pickford makes a full recovery.................and returns about 35 games after Virgil returns.

[Whiskey]

8 hours ago, Scouse_Mouse said:

 

I won't be a hypocrite and say I was sorry to hear this.

Hopefully Pickford makes a full recovery.................and returns about 35 games after Virgil returns.

lololol rofl lmao

[Lucas]

I didn't see the game but I'm not too surprised at this result.

Been the story of Everton this season really hasn't it, get some valuable wins away only to lose at home to teams below them. Must be so annoying given they are having a better season than normal.

That said, as frustrating as it is, to me they are 'in credit'. From what I have seen so far, they have nicked more of the 50/50 games where a draw looked best, so I think that's ultimately why they are a little higher than normal at this stage. Good habit to have.

I just don't see enough flair in the Everton side to really blow the poor teams away, where as when they take on the better sides whose onus it is to attack, they are good at remaining solid and efficient in taking a chance/s when they come. Man U away and us being classic examples.

That's just my thought anyway.

[RandoEFC+]

39 minutes ago, Lucas said:

just don't see enough flair in the Everton side to really blow the poor teams away, where as when they take on the better sides whose onus it is to attack, they are good at remaining solid and efficient in taking a chance/s when they come. Man U away and us being classic examples.

Cheeky . I know what you mean though. We blew away a few sides earlier in the season when everyone was fit and fresh but you can't assume that'll happen all season. Too reliant on Rodriguez and even some games he's played this has happened to us. It belies a lack of strength in depth when it comes to real quality. We've got plenty of players like Iwobi, Sigurdsson, Gomes, Bernard who "have their moments" and we've kept ourselves in the mix by having just enough of those players in form at any one time to this point. 

The issue in these home games realistically is quite simple. We don't have a good enough full team press to keep teams under pressure for extended periods of time. You have to try and push players forward in these games, especially if you don't score the first goal, and when your midfield consists of slow players like Gomes, Sigurdsson, Davies and even Allan, as soon as you lose possession the opponents just run unchallenged at our defence. Now Doucoure is potentially out for the season it only becomes a bigger problem. I don't count the Leeds game in this as they tried to attack us anyway and you could argue the same about Fulham, but West Ham, Newcastle, Burnley have all followed the same blueprint. .

[Lucas]

15 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

Cheeky . I know what you mean though. We blew away a few sides earlier in the season when everyone was fit and fresh but you can't assume that'll happen all season. Too reliant on Rodriguez and even some games he's played this has happened to us. It belies a lack of strength in depth when it comes to real quality. We've got plenty of players like Iwobi, Sigurdsson, Gomes, Bernard who "have their moments" and we've kept ourselves in the mix by having just enough of those players in form at any one time to this point. 

The issue in these home games realistically is quite simple. We don't have a good enough full team press to keep teams under pressure for extended periods of time. You have to try and push players forward in these games, especially if you don't score the first goal, and when your midfield consists of slow players like Gomes, Sigurdsson, Davies and even Allan, as soon as you lose possession the opponents just run unchallenged at our defence. Now Doucoure is potentially out for the season it only becomes a bigger problem. I don't count the Leeds game in this as they tried to attack us anyway and you could argue the same about Fulham, but West Ham, Newcastle, Burnley have all followed the same blueprint. .

I'm glad you mentioned this, I was literally gonna say, surely home to Burnley there is no need for Gomes, Allan and Davies? Seems a bit over cautious.

Feels like you need to find yourself a goalscoring midfielder who can drive the team forward, a little bit how Lingard has had an effect on West Ham. Off the top of my head, someone like a Dele Alli maybe, or of that ilk?

I'd like to see you go for someone like a Neto possibly from Wolves, a player like that who is very direct and pacy. Could see someone like thay doing wonders for you.

I also don't think it helps when say playing a centre back as a Right Back/Wing Back. Godfrey, can't knock him, is doing a decent job but isn't going to give you the same balance as Digne is he.

[RandoEFC+]

20 minutes ago, Lucas said:

I'm glad you mentioned this, I was literally gonna say, surely home to Burnley there is no need for Gomes, Allan and Davies? Seems a bit over cautious.

Feels like you need to find yourself a goalscoring midfielder who can drive the team forward, a little bit how Lingard has had an effect on West Ham. Off the top of my head, someone like a Dele Alli maybe, or of that ilk?

I'd like to see you go for someone like a Neto possibly from Wolves, a player like that who is very direct and pacy. Could see someone like thay doing wonders for you.

I also don't think it helps when say playing a centre back as a Right Back/Wing Back. Godfrey, can't knock him, is doing a decent job but isn't going to give you the same balance as Digne is he.

Yeah there wasn't much choice over the midfield to be honest, Rodriguez and Doucoure injured, Bernard ill, Sigurdsson only fit for the bench. He did try something different with Iwobi playing behind the front two but the shape didn't work at all. He individually didn't do enough but at least he wanted the ball all the time and to be fair to him he had a role in the goal we scored. It's just a pain for us though as we've reverted to what was happening last season where our midfield offer such little threat and a lack of any pace at all in the wide positions meaning that we basically have to play Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin to carry a credible threat at all outside of set pieces. But we could certainly do with a 26-year old Tim Cahill as an option, definitely. We have been linked with Dele Alli as well.

It's actually Holgate who has been playing at right back. He's a bit tidier with his passing than Godfrey but still can't cross at all well and doesn't even have the electric pace or inclination to go past his winger on the overlap. Coleman should really be playing to offer extra threat in these games but then he did start against Fulham and he got overrun by younger, faster players. Max Aarons is the one we've been heavily linked with in that position, right-back needs to be top of the list for me.

[Storts]

33 minutes ago, Lucas said:

I'm glad you mentioned this, I was literally gonna say, surely home to Burnley there is no need for Gomes, Allan and Davies? Seems a bit over cautious.

Feels like you need to find yourself a goalscoring midfielder who can drive the team forward, a little bit how Lingard has had an effect on West Ham. Off the top of my head, someone like a Dele Alli maybe, or of that ilk?

I'd like to see you go for someone like a Neto possibly from Wolves, a player like that who is very direct and pacy. Could see someone like thay doing wonders for you.

I also don't think it helps when say playing a centre back as a Right Back/Wing Back. Godfrey, can't knock him, is doing a decent job but isn't going to give you the same balance as Digne is he.

Not a chance Neto’s next move is to Everton. He’s going to the top 

[Lucas]

1 hour ago, Storts said:

Not a chance Neto’s next move is to Everton. He’s going to the top 

Yeah, there's going to be some serious competition for him this Summer. I like him a lot.

But Everton could do with someone like him definitely, even if he ends up being out their reach.

Unless they revisit Zaha again.

[Lucas]

1 hour ago, RandoEFC said:

Yeah there wasn't much choice over the midfield to be honest, Rodriguez and Doucoure injured, Bernard ill, Sigurdsson only fit for the bench. He did try something different with Iwobi playing behind the front two but the shape didn't work at all. He individually didn't do enough but at least he wanted the ball all the time and to be fair to him he had a role in the goal we scored. It's just a pain for us though as we've reverted to what was happening last season where our midfield offer such little threat and a lack of any pace at all in the wide positions meaning that we basically have to play Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin to carry a credible threat at all outside of set pieces. But we could certainly do with a 26-year old Tim Cahill as an option, definitely. We have been linked with Dele Alli as well.

It's actually Holgate who has been playing at right back. He's a bit tidier with his passing than Godfrey but still can't cross at all well and doesn't even have the electric pace or inclination to go past his winger on the overlap. Coleman should really be playing to offer extra threat in these games but then he did start against Fulham and he got overrun by younger, faster players. Max Aarons is the one we've been heavily linked with in that position, right-back needs to be top of the list for me.

Max Aarons would be a great signing. I really rate him, he looks streets ahead in the Championship. Or even someone like Kyle Walker-Peters who was having a great season till his injury. 

Weird also that Josh King has been sparingly used when he could be an option out wide, he has pace. I read Ancelotti's pre match comments (For FPL purposes) and it indicated King would start on the right of the three.

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, Lucas said:

Max Aarons would be a great signing. I really rate him, he looks streets ahead in the Championship. Or even someone like Kyle Walker-Peters who was having a great season till his injury. 

Weird also that Josh King has been sparingly used when he could be an option out wide, he has pace. I read Ancelotti's pre match comments (For FPL purposes) and it indicated King would start on the right of the three.

Kyle Walker-Peters is an absolute fucking cunt, so he’s built for Everton. Good shout

[RandoEFC+]

Going back in for Zaha at this point would be a terrible move given his age and likely transfer fee.

[Stan]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Kyle Walker-Peters is an absolute fucking cunt, so he’s built for Everton. Good shout

Why? 

[Dr. Gonzo]

2 minutes ago, Stan said:

Why? 

Every time I watch him play he’s a pretty dirty player & he’s one of those players where the officials just accept that’s the kind of player he is and let him get away with a lot. I assume players like that are irredeemable cunts