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Thought this was interesting https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_table/eng-premier-league/

 

# Team M. W D L goals Dif Pt.
1 Liverpool FC Liverpool FC 4214 1991 1044 1179 7030:5078 1952 7017
2 Arsenal FC Arsenal FC 4214 1919 1078 1217 6977:5286 1691 6835
3 Everton FC Everton FC 4598 1870 1154 1574 7128:6363 765 6764
4 Manchester United Manchester United 3858 1852 952 1054 6662:4887 1775 6508
5 Aston Villa Aston Villa 4150 1669 984 1497 6709:6197 512 5991
6 Manchester City Manchester City 3700 1508 881 1311 5887:5285 602 5405
7 Tottenham Hotspur Tottenham Hotspur 3474 1447 839 1188 5491:4842 649 5180
8 Chelsea FC Chelsea FC 3478 1428 893 1157 5345:4847 498 5177
9 Newcastle United Newcastle United 3544 1360 861 1323 5293:5141 152 4941
10 Sunderland AFC Sunderland AFC 3340 1260 780 1300 5143:5121 22 4560
11 West Bromwich Albion West Bromwich Albion 3146 1105 776 1265 4644:4996 -352 4091
12 Blackburn Rovers Blackburn Rovers 2720 1017 651 1052 4306:4348 -42 3702
13 Bolton Wanderers Bolton Wanderers 2802 1017 641 1144 4156:4467 -311 3692
14 Sheffield Wednesday Sheffield Wednesday 2582 980 612 990 3976:4020 -44 3552
15 Wolverhampton Wanderers Wolverhampton Wanderers 2540 987 578 975 4166:4093 73 3539
16 Derby County Derby County 2468 906 585 977 3764:3910 -146 3303
17 Sheffield United Sheffield United 2432 892 574 966 3590:3864 -274 3250
18 West Ham United West Ham United 2552 870 635 1047 3612:3997 -385 3245
19 Leeds United Leeds United 2102 864 530 708 3145:2849 296 3122
20 Burnley FC Burnley FC 2252 860 510 882 3432:3567 -135 3090
21 Middlesbrough FC Middlesbrough FC 2438 818 614 1006 3426:3766 -340 3065
22 Nottingham Forest Nottingham Forest 2178 800 549 829 3069:3171 -102 2949
23 Stoke City Stoke City 2372 778 583 1011 3055:3659 -604 2917
24 Birmingham City Birmingham City 2306 724 583 999 3049:3656 -607 2755
25 Leicester City Leicester City 2170 716 560 894 3204:3606 -402 2708
26 Preston North End Preston North End 1720 671 390 659 2701:2569 132 2403
27 Southampton FC Southampton FC 1762 579 485 698 2309:2563 -254 2222
28 Huddersfield Town Huddersfield Town 1336 492 334 510 1924:1988 -64 1810
29 Portsmouth FC Portsmouth FC 1356 484 322 550 2021:2208 -187 1765
30 Coventry City Coventry City 1390 430 396 564 1604:1954 -350 1686
31 Blackpool FC Blackpool FC 1172 415 282 475 1788:1941 -153 1527
32 Ipswich Town Ipswich Town 1084 402 265 417 1442:1500 -58 1471
33 Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic 1050 355 253 442 1424:1651 -227 1318
34 Notts County Notts County 1068 341 253 474 1403:1712 -309 1276
35 Norwich City Norwich City 1058 308 310 440 1199:1593 -394 1234
36 Fulham FC Fulham FC 1074 310 276 488 1355:1759 -404 1206
37 Queens Park Rangers Queens Park Rangers 936 299 249 388 1143:1310 -167 1146
38 Bury FC Bury FC 804 279 180 345 1176:1340 -164 1017
39 Crystal Palace Crystal Palace 838 235 223 380 888:1234 -346 928
40 Cardiff City Cardiff City 706 241 167 298 931:1136 -205 890
41 Luton Town Luton Town 658 213 168 277 863:1011 -148 807
42 Wimbledon FC Wimbledon FC 554 186 171 197 702:754 -52 729
43 Oldham Athletic Oldham Athletic 484 159 129 196 604:713 -109 606
44 Watford FC Watford FC 520 161 119 240 665:820 -155 602
45 Grimsby Town Grimsby Town 488 167 97 224 756:940 -184 598
46 Bradford City Bradford City 468 152 126 190 584:671 -87 582
47 Bristol City Bristol City 358 114 94 150 428:510 -82 436
48 Swansea City Swansea City 350 113 83 154 415:503 -88 422
49 Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton & Hove Albion 324 86 98 140 335:461 -126 356
50 Wigan Athletic Wigan Athletic 304 85 76 143 316:482 -166 331
51 Brentford FC Brentford FC 214 77 48 89 333:361 -28 279
52 AFC Bournemouth AFC Bournemouth 190 56 43 91 241:330 -89 211
53 Hull City Hull City 190 41 48 101 181:323 -142 171
54 Bradford Park Avenue Bradford Park Avenue 122 40 27 55 172:204 -32 147
55 Accrington FC Accrington FC 122 35 33 54 226:313 -87 138
56 Reading FC Reading FC 114 32 23 59 136:186 -50 119
57 Oxford United Oxford United 124 27 38 59 150:229 -79 119
58 Millwall FC Millwall FC 76 19 22 35 86:117 -31 79
59 Northampton Town Northampton Town 42 10 13 19 55:92 -37 43
60 Carlisle United Carlisle United 42 12 5 25 43:59 -16 41
61 Darwen Darwen 56 11 8 37 75:195 -120 41
62 Barnsley FC Barnsley FC 38 10 5 23 37:82 -45 35
63 Swindon Town Swindon Town 42 5 15 22 47:100 -53 30
64 Leyton Orient Leyton Orient 42 6 9 27 37:81 -44 27
65 Glossop North End Glossop North End 34 4 10 20 31:74 -43 22
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Comparing that with the all time Silverware of every English club

Combined totals of English men's clubs
  FIFA and UEFA FA, EFL and PL (top-qualifying) Total
Club Cups Super Cups Total League Cups Super Cups Total League Cups Super Cups Total
Manchester United 6 2 8 20 17 21 58 20 23 23 66
Liverpool 10 4 14 19 16[a] 16 51 19 26 20 65
Arsenal 2 2 13 17 16 46 13 19 16 48
Chelsea 6 2 8 6 15 4 25 6 21 6 33
Manchester City 1 1 7 14 6 27 7 15 6 28
Tottenham Hotspur 3 3 2 12 9[c] 23 2 15 9 26
Aston Villa 2 1 3 7 12 3[d] 22 7 14 4 25
Everton 1 1 9 5 9 23 9 6 9 24
Newcastle United 2 2 4 6 2 12 4 8 2 14
Nottingham Forest 2 1 3 1 8 1 10 1 10 2 13
Wolverhampton Wanderers 3 6 4 13 3 6 4 13
Blackburn Rovers 3 8 1 12 3 8 1 12
Sunderland 6 2 2[e] 10 6 2 2 10
Sheffield Wednesday 4 4 2 10 4 4 2 10
Leeds United 2 2 3 2 2 7 3 4 2 9
West Bromwich Albion 1 6 2 9 1 6 2 9
Leicester City 1 4 2 7 1 4 2 7
West Ham United 2 2 3 1 4 5 1 6
Sheffield United 1 4 1 6 1 4 1 6
Huddersfield Town 3 1 1 5 3 1 1 5
Portsmouth 2 2 1 5 2 2 1 5
Burnley 2 1 2 5 2 1 2 5
Wanderers 5 5 5 5
Bolton Wanderers 4 1 5 4 1 5
Preston North End 2 2 4 2 2 4
Derby County 2 1 1 4 2 1 1 4
Ipswich Town 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 3
Corinthian 3 3 3 3
Birmingham City 2 2 2 2
Bury 2 2 2 2
Norwich City 2 2 2 2
Old Etonians 2 2 2 2
Cardiff City[f] 1 1 2 1 1 2
Swindon Town 1 1 2 1 1 2
Wigan Athletic 1 1 1 1
Swansea City[g] 1 1 1 1
Middlesbrough 1 1 1 1
Crystal Palace 1 1 1 1
Luton Town 1 1 1 1
Reading 1 1 1 1
Wimbledon 1 1 1 1
Coventry City 1 1 1 1
Oxford United 1 1 1 1
Southampton 1 1 1 1
Stoke City 1 1 1 1
Queens Park Rangers 1 1 1 1
Blackpool 1 1 1 1
Charlton Athletic 1 1 1 1
Barnsley 1 1 1 1
Bradford City 1 1 1 1
Notts County 1 1 1 1
Blackburn Olympic 1 1 1 1
Old Carthusians 1 1 1 1
Clapham Rovers 1 1 1 1
Royal Engineers 1 1 1 1
Oxford University 1 1 1 1
Brighton & Hove Albion 1 1 1 1
Queens Park[h] 1 1 1 1
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8 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

People bang on about the mighty Nottingham Forest, 22nd on the league & 10th on the silverware :35_thinking: ..it's a good record but people would have you believe it's a lot better than it really is

They've been irrelevant for the best part of 2 decades now. The true definition of a club that lives in the past. 

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46 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

Do Leicester fans still consider them a local rival, or are you not bothered about them these days?

Not bothered about them.

Haven't been for nearly 10 years. Last bit of relevance was when we beat them 3-2 on the final day of the 12/13 season to make the play-offs at their expense. In fact that was a pretty eventful final day of the season for Leicester, Forest & Bolton all vying for 6th place. We had to beat Forest, Bolton had to beat Blackpool. Bolton went 2 down and came back to 2-2. At that point they'd have finished 6th. Then we scored a last minute winner to take us above both of them.

Can't say I've cared much about them since then but it's can't deny it's nice to see their current plight...

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3 hours ago, Happy Blue said:

People bang on about the mighty Nottingham Forest, 22nd on the league & 10th on the silverware :35_thinking: ..it's a good record but people would have you believe it's a lot better than it really is

That’s pretty good considering I can’t even remember what year it was we last saw them in the top flight because it was so long ago.

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15 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

That’s pretty good considering I can’t even remember what year it was we last saw them in the top flight because it was so long ago.

Had a check and it was longer than I thought - 1998/99. 

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Just now, Stan said:

Had a check and it was longer than I thought - 1998/99. 

And in the 90s they were a pretty far cry from when they were good. I think the first season of the prem was when Clough lost his touch and they went down.

I think of them as a big club purely because they won the European Cup twice (back to back? Or were there years between? I dunno)… even though it’d maybe be the equivalent of someone like Atalanta winning the CL twice.

But they’ve clearly fallen on hard times. For most of my life they’ve been very shite.

Also this chart shows how badly Kenwright had fucked over Everton and how successful he’s been at beating the big club mentality out of the blueshite. Pretty remarkable- but it probably kept him from so much deserved pressure in the 90s, 00s, and 10s

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1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

And in the 90s they were a pretty far cry from when they were good. I think the first season of the prem was when Clough lost his touch and they went down.

I think of them as a big club purely because they won the European Cup twice (back to back? Or were there years between? I dunno)… even though it’d maybe be the equivalent of someone like Atalanta winning the CL twice.

But they’ve clearly fallen on hard times. For most of my life they’ve been very shite.

Also this chart shows how badly Kenwright had fucked over Everton and how successful he’s been at beating the big club mentality out of the blueshite. Pretty remarkable- but it probably kept him from so much deserved pressure in the 90s, 00s, and 10s

Was back to back, otherwise they wouldn't have been qualified since they were only once English champions.:)

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2 hours ago, Happy Blue said:

Premier League >>>> every other competition, domestic or international, the Premier League is the highest standard of football in the world. City >> Chelsea ;)

I would take the European Cup every day over anything else. Especially now we've got the not winning the league for so long monkey off our back. 

I'm desperate for Liverpool to win both though!

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3 hours ago, Happy Blue said:

Premier League >>>> every other competition, domestic or international, the Premier League is the highest standard of football in the world. City >> Chelsea ;)

Imo the CL is the most exciting tournament & most prestigious trophy. It's something the top clubs in Europe (and because that's where the big money leagues are... that means the top clubs in the world) are all desperate to win. It's a tournament with the best sides and best players in the world and the matches that become classics in the tournament are absolutely incredible tbh.

I always want us to win the league because I spent most of my life desperate for us to win the league... but my favourite competition to watch us compete in is the CL because it's just a remarkably good competition.

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Rather win the league than the Champions League hands down. As a fan of a non-elite club I just can't properly relate to the Champions League and think it's overrated to be honest. The latter stages are good and it's fun when a team like Dortmund or Ajax put together a genuinely competitive team, and I'll hold my hands up and admit I'd love it if Everton were in it and saw Real Madrid or Juventus playing at Goodison or Bramley Moore, and I'd love to see Everton in any European competition because then I get to watch more football matches that I care about.

However, I just find the idea of being Champions of England much more meaningful than the Champions League in its current form. There's just too much entitlement in one place in the Champions League and too often you end up with ties in the latter stages between teams of the same country. This can actually be really good in some ways when you get two-legged ties that you don't usually get in other competitions but I'm not a fan of it in the Final. I can definitely see the appeal of the tournament if you support one of the teams that have a chance of winning it most seasons to be fair.

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Ask me 10 years ago I'd of said Champions League. Now, it's Premier League over anything.  

It is funny though when you look at City's success the past decade and a half and see they've accomplished fuck all in Europe. Not even in their entire history do they have any European pedigree, which I truly believe is a thing. It's the very reason why it took ages for our old guard Cech, Terry, Lampard, and Drogba to win it. 

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5 hours ago, LFCMike said:

I would take the European Cup every day over anything else. Especially now we've got the not winning the league for so long monkey off our back. 

I'm desperate for Liverpool to win both though!

 

4 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Imo the CL is the most exciting tournament & most prestigious trophy. It's something the top clubs in Europe (and because that's where the big money leagues are... that means the top clubs in the world) are all desperate to win. It's a tournament with the best sides and best players in the world and the matches that become classics in the tournament are absolutely incredible tbh.

I always want us to win the league because I spent most of my life desperate for us to win the league... but my favourite competition to watch us compete in is the CL because it's just a remarkably good competition.

The thing with the CL is it's a cup competition and you just need a bit of luck and be in form at the right time, a team from mid table in a domestic league has won it a few times so how can you be champions of Europe when you are only the 6th best in your own country :4_joy: ..i will take the Premier League all day long, right now who ever wins that is probably the best team in the world with the state of the other leagues at present with maybe Madrid & Bayern

The CL should only be the CHAMPIONS of each league, then i might take it a bit more seriously 

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