Cicero Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 A midfield three of Tchouameni, Camavinga, and Bellingham just isn't fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 15 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I think there's no way we actually end up with him if Madrid, City, or Chelsea are genuinely interested. All hell should rain down on our recruitment team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Rick said: All hell should rain down on our recruitment team. They want £130million for him, is he worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: They want £130million for him, is he worth it? Under the right manager, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, Cicero said: Under the right manager, yes. Grealish isnt worth anywhere near £100million, i get the feeling there is an English player tax on Jude too sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Happy Blue said: Grealish isnt worth anywhere near £100million, i get the feeling there is an English player tax on Jude too sadly. Why would a German sell an English player for more money than a player of any other nation? What does exist though is an English club tax . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: Why would a German sell an English player for more money than a player of any other nation? What does exist though is an English club tax . English players values are inflated, especially with these young kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, Happy Blue said: English players values are inflated, especially with these young kids Perhaps that's the case in England, but not in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, Rucksackfranzose said: Perhaps that's the case in England, but not in Germany. Do you think he's worth £130million of the Kings pounds? ..Bernardo Silva is probably worth £80million for a comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Do you think he's worth £130million of the Kings pounds? ..Bernardo Silva is probably worth £80million for a comparison No, as I sid there's an English buying club tax- meaning a players, regardless of their nationality, become more expensive as soon as one of the rich English clubs are showing interest in buying. That's the flip side of your enourmous TV contract advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Happy Blue said: They want £130million for him, is he worth it? For us, under Klopp - yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 14 hours ago, Happy Blue said: Grealish isnt worth anywhere near £100million, i get the feeling there is an English player tax on Jude too sadly. It's funny looking at Grealish's career, he has a career total of 44 goals in 296 games. For a winger it's quite a paltry return, his runs to the byline for Villa did look good and some of the goals he scored seemed spectacular at times but I can't help but feel he's been massively overhyped. What I would say is that when Jude Bellingham and Jack Grealish at 19 years of age are night and day, Bellingham seems genuinely world class, not many 19 year olds will dominate a midfield like Jude did against Germany, even if Germany were shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 17 hours ago, Rucksackfranzose said: Perhaps that's the case in England, but not in Germany. I disagree. Bellingham cost over £25,000,000 for Dortmund, could you say that he would have cost that much of he were German playing in the 2.Bundesliga? Just the fact Bellingham is English would have drove the price up as the other interested parties would have been richer than the average German club. I think the record transfer of a teenage player that was actively playing in 2.Bundesliga moving to the Bundesliga was Nevan Subotic for around £4,000,000, granted that was quite some time ago but I think you get the point. Jadon Sancho, having never played professional football cost twice the amount of Subotic. It is smart by Dortmund really, spend a significant outlay on an unproven English player and then sell him back for £100,000,000 profit. Because let’s be honest, if it was Johannes Bellinghausen instead he would have joined Bayern for €500,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Spike said: I disagree. Bellingham cost over £25,000,000 for Dortmund, could you say that he would have cost that much of he were German playing in the 2.Bundesliga? Just the fact Bellingham is English would have drove the price up as the other interested parties would have been richer than the average German club. I think the record transfer of a teenage player that was actively playing in 2.Bundesliga moving to the Bundesliga was Nevan Subotic for around £4,000,000, granted that was quite some time ago but I think you get the point. Jadon Sancho, having never played professional football cost twice the amount of Subotic. It is smart by Dortmund really, spend a significant outlay on an unproven English player and then sell him back for £100,000,000 profit. Because let’s be honest, if it was Johannes Bellinghausen instead he would have joined Bayern for €500,000. £25m was also the premium price (give or take £5m) for top quality Championship talent, so you can't say to Bellingham he will be an England international and Champions League participant within 3 years and also tell Birmingham that he isn't worth the going rate for a high level Championship talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Danny said: It's funny looking at Grealish's career, he has a career total of 44 goals in 296 games. For a winger it's quite a paltry return, his runs to the byline for Villa did look good and some of the goals he scored seemed spectacular at times but I can't help but feel he's been massively overhyped. What I would say is that when Jude Bellingham and Jack Grealish at 19 years of age are night and day, Bellingham seems genuinely world class, not many 19 year olds will dominate a midfield like Jude did against Germany, even if Germany were shit. I think Grealish is massively over hyped like James Milner was at one point, just an average player probably not good enough to play for us. not really seen much of Jude, i only watch City games and the world cup etc so not seen much of hum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Happy Blue said: I think Grealish is massively over hyped like James Milner was at one point, just an average player probably not good enough to play for us. not really seen much of Jude, i only watch City games and the world cup etc so not seen much of hum Milner was great for City and us though. He’s old and lost his legs now, but he was an important player for 2 very good teams. He’s got a completely different personality to Grealish as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Happy Blue said: I think Grealish is massively over hyped like James Milner was at one point, just an average player probably not good enough to play for us. not really seen much of Jude, i only watch City games and the world cup etc so not seen much of hum The only thing average about Grealish is his intelligence. He is a good player just not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Milner was great for City and us though. He’s old and lost his legs now, but he was an important player for 2 very good teams. He’s got a completely different personality to Grealish as well. I never really rated Milner when he was at City, he wasn't shit just average and like Jack he never broke into the first 11, mostly used when players needed resting. think his best moments at City was his boring james milner xmass video's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, Spike said: The only thing average about Grealish is his intelligence. He is a good player just not that good. I've been spoiled lol, compared to most the other players we have he's not shown me he belongs with them yet. no doubt he's very talented but just average performances for us so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Happy Blue said: I've been spoiled lol, compared to most the other players we have he's not shown me he belongs with them yet. no doubt he's very talented but just average performances for us so far Overwhelmed by the bright lights maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 14 hours ago, Spike said: I disagree. Bellingham cost over £25,000,000 for Dortmund, could you say that he would have cost that much of he were German playing in the 2.Bundesliga? Just the fact Bellingham is English would have drove the price up as the other interested parties would have been richer than the average German club. I think the record transfer of a teenage player that was actively playing in 2.Bundesliga moving to the Bundesliga was Nevan Subotic for around £4,000,000, granted that was quite some time ago but I think you get the point. Jadon Sancho, having never played professional football cost twice the amount of Subotic. It is smart by Dortmund really, spend a significant outlay on an unproven English player and then sell him back for £100,000,000 profit. Because let’s be honest, if it was Johannes Bellinghausen instead he would have joined Bayern for €500,000. You mean he would have shared the potential fate of this Chelsea player, if he wasn't called John Haford but say Jan Havertz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: You mean he would have shared the potential fate of this Chelsea player, if he wasn't called John Haford but say Jan Havertz. Isn’t John Haford a country singer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 10 hours ago, Spike said: Isn’t John Haford a country singer? None I would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Thinking about it logically, there is no way he goes to Liverpool now, they can't afford to waste a full transfer budget on one player and he has the chance to reunite with his best mate Haaland who's publicly told him to join us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted October 12, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 12, 2022 46 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Thinking about it logically, there is no way he goes to Liverpool now, they can't afford to waste a full transfer budget on one player and he has the chance to reunite with his best mate Haaland who's publicly told him to join us But Liverpool already have plans to sign him next summer?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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