SirBalon Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, bozziovai said: the best irony would be if monaco will win this years trophy If only!
bozziovai Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 https://www.goal.com/en/news/nme-will-rock-football-neymar-mbappe-edinson-the-best/1l9sbmugtywql1utvgkp74o7t6 just an example of a whole lot of bullocks from the press. How can this trio be of importance when they're playing in the french league. No offense to any french here, but Ligue 1 isn't considered to be in the top 4 in europe. And that win against Barcelona on the first leg of the UCL quarters last year was clearly a fluke. But only time will tell whether this money-team will perform well in the UCL.
Pep Talk Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Quote Uefa has opened a formal investigation into Paris St-Germain as part of its "ongoing monitoring" of clubs under financial fair play (FFP) regulations. It said the investigation will "focus on the compliance of the club with the break-even requirement, particularly in light of its recent transfer activity". PSG more than doubled the world record transfer fee when they spent 222m euros (£200m) to sign Neymar last month. They have also loaned Kylian Mbappe, with the option of a £165.7m transfer. Uefa introduced break-even FFP rules in 2013 to stop clubs accumulating too much debt and to prevent wealthy owners from injecting too much cash into their clubs. The rules state that a club such as PSG, which is owned by the Gulf state of Qatar via its Qatar Sports Investments fund, can spend 30m euros more than it earns over a three-year period. A Uefa statement said: "In the coming months, the investigatory chamber of the Uefa club financial control body will regularly meet in order to carefully evaluate all documentation pertaining to this case. "Uefa considers financial fair play to be a crucial governance mechanism which aims to ensure the financial sustainability of European club football." https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41129494?ocid=socialflow_twitter
Bluewolf Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 So in other words nothing is going to happen.... Paper will be rustled in dark chambers, murmurings and mutterings will be taking place, whispers in hallways of footballs most trusted leaders of honesty and integrity then life will resume as normal in 2 months.. Back to the unscrupulous standards we have all come to know and expect..
SirBalon Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Bluewolf said: So in other words nothing is going to happen.... Paper will be rustled in dark chambers, murmurings and mutterings will be taking place, whispers in hallways of footballs most trusted leaders of honesty and integrity then life will resume as normal in 2 months.. Back to the unscrupulous standards we have all come to know and expect.. They're in big trouble mate. This would be their second offence and 100s of times worse. But on a side note... There are strong rumours that Di María could be going to Barcelona. So money coming in for PSG... Not only are Barcelona depositing money into their account in all of this, but Di María? Barcelona are an utter joke! Stupid!
bozziovai Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 i hope this would be the beginning of the end for PSG. don't get me wrong people, i don't hate PSG, i just hate the current arab owners.
Pep Talk Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Nothing is going to happen lets face it. PSG seem to of covered themselves well and aren't stupid enough not to know how close they are to what they have spend. even if they did get caught they wouldn't be thrown out of the CL for another 3 years
Honey Honey Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 UEFA are rattled that someone is coming along and challenging their protected branded clubs. Awww. Bless. Did ickle lickle Barcelona throw their toys out of the pram?
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted September 2, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 2, 2017 Let's just take a second to remind ourselves of the millions of people in the world who can't afford food, shelter, medical care and/or an education. Pumping all this shithouse money into shithouse football clubs with their shithouse players and agents, ask yourself what it's actually for and it becomes even more sickening.
Honey Honey Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Like with Man City, PSG owners do it to buy business and government approval in the western world for the benefit of their sovereign wealth fund portfolio's. The Norwegian government would have had to do the same thing if it was from a backward culture, but since they're not they can just make business deals anywhere without a sweetener. They're taking over your banks, power supply, major infrastructure and to keep you calm and docile here's Neymar at a tinpot club.
SirBalon Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 42 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said: Like with Man City, PSG owners do it to buy business and government approval in the western world for the benefit of their sovereign wealth fund portfolio's. The Norwegian government would have had to do the same thing if it was from a backward culture, but since they're not they can just make business deals anywhere without a sweetener. They're taking over your banks, power supply, major infrastructure and to keep you calm and docile here's Neymar at a tinpot club. I was going to write a long piece on this... Haven't got time right now though hahaha The UEFA investigation (which incidentally isn't just UEFA but even European officials are getting involved and could get ugly) is based mainly on the inflated bank account of PSG through Qatar state money (STATE MONEY), not sponsorships. Manchester City are also involved... This is all a lot more complicated and deserves a lot more time dedicated to writing this up so people understand. This is all very shady! The Neymar deal has pertinence because on the way it was done and that has sparked it all off. Serious things will happen... PSG are a very very dodgy football club being ruled from Qatar for various reasons.
SirBalon Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 By the way... Information for everyone because I have a feeling where some uninformed individuals could go with this... FC Barcelona did NOT report PSG to the authorities. The LFP did with documents they had at hand and Barça had absolutely nothing at all to do with it other than the fact they were party to what sparked it off with Neymar's move from Barcelona to Paris Saint-Germain.
bozziovai Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, RandoEFC said: Let's just take a second to remind ourselves of the millions of people in the world who can't afford food, shelter, medical care and/or an education. Pumping all this shithouse money into shithouse football clubs with their shithouse players and agents, ask yourself what it's actually for and it becomes even more sickening. here's a good read related to your comment -- https://www.arabnews.com/node/1142251/sports
bozziovai Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 18 minutes ago, SirBalon said: By the way... Information for everyone because I have a feeling where some uninformed individuals could go with this... FC Barcelona did NOT report PSG to the authorities. The LFP did with documents they had at hand and Barça had absolutely nothing at all to do with it other than the fact they were party to what sparked it off with Neymar's move from Barcelona to Paris Saint-Germain. you know the press, they always sensationalize an issue. they're naming Madrid and Barcelona as the one who complaint, which is really BS for me. Coz there's no need for any club to force the UEFA to investigate on this matter, it's clear for everyone to see that this needs a thorough probe from UEFA.
SirBalon Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, bozziovai said: they're naming Madrid and Barcelona as the one who complaint, which is really BS for me. This is why I added that part although it will all become officially evident in time anyhow. No club can report this type of issue, it's out of their jurisdiction. The LFP reported PSG initially because of the aggressive nature in which they pulled Neymar from Barcelona. The LFP wanted both clubs to negotiate first and then if a deal couldn't be struck, then and only then can the buy-out clause be activated. The LFP are there to protect their interests which is the brandname of the league the same way that the English FA protect the Premier League. Absolutely nobody from FC Barcelona or any other Spanish football club had anything whatsoever to do with this and never even asked the LFP to report PSG. Apparently PSG were already under investigation anyway from what I heard last night. The Neymar deal coupled with how the Mbappé deal has been done put the cogs into motion straight away.
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted September 2, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 2, 2017 I hope after all this is done someone takes a hard look at FFP, sees its not as effective as it should be, revises it and some good comes of all this. Its why I asked in another thread about Mbappe about how PSG were even allowed to get this far and continue doing business the way they were. Anyone with half a brain-cell could see something weird is happening there.
Honey Honey Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 UEFA's involvement in financial fair play is suspicious. What is the meaning of it? European competitions have never been a fair platform, they are enormously divided by nationally produced incomes, therefore what is financial fair play from a UEFA authority meant to uphold? The cynic in me believes it is about protecting the prestigious giant clubs hegemony and the revenue these giants currently provide UEFA. Protect the clubs that most of these ex players, ex directors that end up in UEFA used to play for or work for. UEFA have taken action against clubs in Eastern Europe, in Turkey, in Greece, in the Balkans, they're shutting down anyone who might become good enough to win a game in the Champions League under the guise of fairness. Along come Manchester City and PSG who can replicate the ad revenues for UEFA that the current giants do, but they've already tried to crush rising minnows so they have to look as though they are doing something. Whether PSG are acting fairly or unfairly is a matter for the French authorities who may want to prevent their league from becoming pointless. What is it UEFA are trying to preserve? They operate cup competitions. On your bike.
SirBalon Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said: UEFA's involvement in financial fair play is suspicious. What is the meaning of it? European competitions have never been a fair platform, they are enormously divided by nationally produced incomes, therefore what is financial fair play from a UEFA authority meant to uphold? The cynic in me believes it is about protecting the prestigious giant clubs hegemony and the revenue these giants currently provide UEFA. Protect the clubs that most of these ex players, ex directors that end up in UEFA used to play for or work for. UEFA have taken action against clubs in Eastern Europe, in Turkey, in Greece, in the Balkans, they're shutting down anyone who might become good enough to win a game in the Champions League under the guise of fairness. Along come Manchester City and PSG who can replicate the ad revenues for UEFA that the current giants do, but they've already tried to crush rising minnows so they have to look as though they are doing something. Whether PSG are acting fairly or unfairly is a matter for the French authorities who may want to prevent their league from becoming pointless. What is it UEFA are trying to preserve? They operate cup competitions. On your bike. You're talking about ethics while here we have one definite club having their bank accounts inflated by a STATE (its upto you to decide ethics on being funded by the state of Qatar) and not by their own revenue. This is what's being investigated. Your argument lies in another debate.
Honey Honey Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, SirBalon said: You're talking about ethics while here we have one definite club having their bank accounts inflated by a STATE (its upto you to decide ethics on being funded by the state of Qatar) and not by their own revenue. This is what's being investigated. Your argument lies in another debate. Why can't I question who has the investigative authority?
SirBalon Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 48 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said: Why can't I question who has the investigative authority? Because all clubs in the continent of Europe work under the rules of our confederation which is UEFA mate. Having yout club financed by a government can't be permitted and even worse is when it's a shady government like Qatar. They're using the mediascape of European football (and the following World Cup) to access the "legitimate" market so as to enter our very souls. Nothing is left sacred. Look mate... You're well formulated argument on the ethics of football and the rich versus the "poor" is a good one for debate but this particular situation is very different mate.
Honey Honey Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, SirBalon said: Because all clubs in the continent of Europe work under the rules of our confederation which is UEFA mate. Having yout club financed by a government can't be permitted and even worse is when it's a shady government like Qatar. They're using the mediascape of European football (and the following World Cup) to access the "legitimate" market so as to enter our very souls. Nothing is left sacred. Look mate... You're well formulated argument on the ethics of football and the rich versus the "poor" is a good one for debate but this particular situation is very different mate. The investigation is about break even rules according to the article in the first post though. Not where the money comes from. It's a bit late now to say that links to a soverign wealth fund aren't permitted.
SirBalon Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said: The investigation is about break even rules according to the article in the first post though. Not where the money comes from. It's a bit late now to say that links to a soverign wealth fund aren't permitted. Give it time mate... All will become evident. The primary objective is PSG's over inflated accounts and Manchester City are also being investigated which has nothing to do with Neymar. The Neymar signing has set the alarm bells ringing because PSG can't afford it.
Panna King Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 On the other hand, Arsenal should be looked into for not spending and claiming they have no money! could be a big case of money laundering.
Honey Honey Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 Quote Paris St-Germain and Manchester City have been accused of 'financial doping' by La Liga president Javier Tebas. Speaking at the Soccerex conference in Manchester, Tebas said the clubs had spent money from outside football and action should be taken to stop it. Tebas said PSG were "laughing at the system" after their world record £200m purchase of Neymar from Barcelona. He added: "We've caught them peeing in the swimming pool. Neymar peed from the diving board. We can't accept this." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41174403
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