The Palace Fan 3,407 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Im hoping we can milk this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,673 Posted July 18, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted July 18, 2023 There's a problem for Newcastle now selling any of their players to the Saudi League because people will always call it inflated prices/skirting FFP even if you could argue that any other Premier League club would get the same fee for the same player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,412 Posted July 18, 2023 Administrator Share Posted July 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: There's a problem for Newcastle now selling any of their players to the Saudi League because people will always call it inflated prices/skirting FFP even if you could argue that any other Premier League club would get the same fee for the same player. Won't see someone moaning about exploitation and inflated fees when it benefits their club though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 hours ago, RandoEFC said: There's a problem for Newcastle now selling any of their players to the Saudi League because people will always call it inflated prices/skirting FFP even if you could argue that any other Premier League club would get the same fee for the same player. 40-50m is not that much or unrealistic for a 26 year old with two years of club control. he is mecurial and enigmatic but in that league he will destroy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 1,179 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: 40-50m is not that much or unrealistic for a 26 year old with two years of club control. he is mecurial and enigmatic but in that league he will destroy. Yeah, he'd deliver in bag fulls over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 im hearing it's around 30-35 million that will pay for the Barnes move and we can also get the Disasi move finalised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,673 Posted July 19, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted July 19, 2023 I mean it's not hard to put together a conspiracy theory is it? Newcastle want Barnes but he's going to cost £40m and that'll mess up their FFP so the owners ring up their mates and manage to get them to buy an unwanted asset for more or less the same price to balance their books for them. I'm not saying that's the exact scenario but that's what a lot of people are going to say. Impossible to prove either true or false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 46 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: I mean it's not hard to put together a conspiracy theory is it? Newcastle want Barnes but he's going to cost £40m and that'll mess up their FFP so the owners ring up their mates and manage to get them to buy an unwanted asset for more or less the same price to balance their books for them. I'm not saying that's the exact scenario but that's what a lot of people are going to say. Impossible to prove either true or false. someone bought That Moroccan from Chelsea for 20m, 30m for ASM is hardly a conspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/07/16/everton-transfer-news-sky-sports-pundit-in-exciting-reaction-after-allan-saint-maximin-approach-amid-newcastle-exit-links/ maybe Everton have that 40m laying about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 3,828 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said: https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/07/16/everton-transfer-news-sky-sports-pundit-in-exciting-reaction-after-allan-saint-maximin-approach-amid-newcastle-exit-links/ maybe Everton have that 40m laying about Not a chance Everton spend £40m, let alone on one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,673 Posted July 19, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted July 19, 2023 I mean if Anthony Gordon was worth £45m then on second thoughts, £40m for Saint-Maximin really does seem reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, RandoEFC said: I mean if Anthony Gordon was worth £45m then on second thoughts, £40m for Saint-Maximin really does seem reasonable. I wouldn't be surprised if Gordon is worth 2-3x what ASM is worth after this season. I know the Gordon thing is touchy for Evertonian's, he was rumored to go to Chelsea last summer for 60m then was run out the club by fans baying for blood. His off season so far is going well, he is in a similar position to Almiron last summer, he has worked to bulk up and improve his cardio and the results have been paying off. He has the Euro's conditioning under his belt and was pretty good against Rangers coming off the bench. Much like Almiron last season, Gordon has motivation in the form of silencing doubters. As for Maxi, he would be a good fit for Everton, who are not completely skint of talent but he would certainly be the best or thereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,673 Posted July 19, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: wouldn't be surprised if Gordon is worth 2-3x what ASM is worth after this season. I know the Gordon thing is touchy for Evertonian's, You can't suggest that Gordon might be worth, what are you saying like £80-90m by the end of this season!? And then make out like it's Everton fans who can't see straight when it comes to him because it's "touchy". The lad has 8 goals and 2 assists in the Premier League in 67 appearances (41 starts) from the last two seasons. This isnt touchiness, those are just statistics. He's going to have to improve a lot this season to even look like he'll ever justify the £45m let alone be worth tens of millions more than that. There's no way Saint-Maximin comes to Everton regardless. Too expensive and the polar opposite of what the current manager is looking for in his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,412 Posted July 19, 2023 Administrator Share Posted July 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: You can't suggest that Gordon might be worth, what are you saying like £80-90m by the end of this season!? And then make out like it's Everton fans who can't see straight when it comes to him because it's "touchy You know by know this guy overvalues his own players, but think Newcastle are being ripped off if players they want aren't sold on the cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: You can't suggest that Gordon might be worth, what are you saying like £80-90m by the end of this season!? And then make out like it's Everton fans who can't see straight when it comes to him because it's "touchy". The lad has 8 goals and 2 assists in the Premier League in 67 appearances (41 starts) from the last two seasons. This isnt touchiness, those are just statistics. He's going to have to improve a lot this season to even look like he'll ever justify the £45m let alone be worth tens of millions more than that. There's no way Saint-Maximin comes to Everton regardless. Too expensive and the polar opposite of what the current manager is looking for in his players. The eco system Gordon was brought into was not condusive to development, with a poor team, a poor manager and a vociferous fan base it would be a lot for any prospect to deal with. He was also far from a finished product, my guess is Everton would have loved to have kept him but the situation became untenable due to surrounding circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Stan said: You know by know this guy overvalues his own players, but think Newcastle are being ripped off if players they want aren't sold on the cheap? What player have we bought on the cheap? We tend to do most of our deals on the content because those teams tend to be more reasonable than English clubs. The case in point was how it took two days to sign AC Milan's captain for 52m without any haggling. We seem to have a problem dealing with Leicester because Leicester have a reputation of overselling thanks to Chelsea and Man United, while we adopted the approach that we won't be overcharged. What has happened with Leicester since is that Leicester have not negotiated on good faith to find a compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,412 Posted July 19, 2023 Administrator Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: What player have we bought on the cheap? We tend to do most of our deals on the content because those teams tend to be more reasonable than English clubs. The case in point was how it took two days to sign AC Milan's captain for 52m without any haggling. We seem to have a problem dealing with Leicester because Leicester have a reputation of overselling thanks to Chelsea and Man United, while we adopted the approach that we won't be overcharged. What has happened with Leicester since is that Leicester have not negotiated on good faith to find a compromise. Always everyone else's fault, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Stan said: Always everyone else's fault, isn't it? No, it is just a symptom of a problem that may get exposed by the saudi league when they start to cannibalise all the talent. Most of the time the offers are within the window of reasonableness, it is not like we offered 20m for Harvey Barnes or that we didn't offer 45m and 50m for Maddison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,199 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 How's a forward with no end product worth the same as Fabinho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: How's a forward with no end product worth the same as Fabinho? forwards generally cost more than defensive midfielders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,199 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said: forwards generally cost more than defensive midfielders Even ones with no end product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 If it is true that it is €25m then that's a bit of a twist where PIF give Saudi clubs our players on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Even ones with no end product? Kai Havertz cost 70m, Lukaku 100m, Richarlison 65m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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