Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rick said: After the penalty given against Dunk yesterday, that had to be a penalty. That's true. That was an absurd call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 Hard to call which way this game will go. Liverpool haven't repeated the dominance shown in first half and Chelsea struggle in the final third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Getting both that handball call and the high boot not given is v lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,210 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Liverpool need to get Gakpo off, too lightweight. If they can get someone going in the middle instead theyll cause Chelsea problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,210 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Removing timewasting from football is such a bad move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,210 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Danny said: Early on but it feels like Chelsea are gunna get bummed Or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Danny said: Removing timewasting from football is such a bad move What Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 Salah fuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,626 Posted August 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, Stan said: Salah fuming. No handshake with Klopp either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,210 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Stan said: What It’s a tactical element of the game that is taken out, small teams specifically use it to try and get an advantage against bigger teams who want the game sped up. Ultimately you want different styles of play to go against each other, not the same style from everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, Tommy said: No handshake with Klopp either. Yeah not sure if he was unhappy with his performance and not scoring or actually being subbed. Either way you don't see it often from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Salah is seething Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Danny said: It’s a tactical element of the game that is taken out, small teams specifically use it to try and get an advantage against bigger teams who want the game sped up. Ultimately you want different styles of play to go against each other, not the same style from everyone Ah yeah because only small teams use it. Every team in the world does it, depending on scenario in the game. It rewarded 'cheating' and then it was never added on at the end. That seems to have changed and it's about discouraging the time-wasting it anything now. Not sure what styles of play have to do with anything. The most stylish team in the world will time-waste given the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,626 Posted August 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2023 Does Chelsea not have a shirt sponsor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,276 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Don’t think Salah react like that if he’s getting subbed for Diaz or Jota. But a 17 year old replaces him and he’s acted like a right baby. We’ve been terrible second half. Offered nothing going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Stan said: Ah yeah because only small teams use it. Every team in the world does it, depending on scenario in the game. It rewarded 'cheating' and then it was never added on at the end. That seems to have changed and it's about discouraging the time-wasting it anything now. Not sure what styles of play have to do with anything. The most stylish team in the world will time-waste given the chance. I agree with Stanley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Rick said: We’ve been terrible second half. Offered nothing going forward. All the more surprising why Salah was taken off. He's one player who could still make a difference right til the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tommy said: Does Chelsea not have a shirt sponsor? They do, it's just hard to see because it is the exact same colour as the shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 Are players actually stupid? Why do the card gesture to the ref? You know its now allowed. Idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,210 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Stan said: Ah yeah because only small teams use it. Every team in the world does it, depending on scenario in the game. It rewarded 'cheating' and then it was never added on at the end. That seems to have changed and it's about discouraging the time-wasting it anything now. Not sure what styles of play have to do with anything. The most stylish team in the world will time-waste given the chance. I didn’t say only small teams use it did I? I said specifically, as in heres an example. It’s a method to change the game and if you are a team in control of possession and the speed of the game you will not want the opposition slowing your momentum down. But at extremes it is going to be more noticeable between smaller and bigger teams, or for a team that like to disrupt the opposition such as Atletico Madrid. For me the game is better with it, it creates tension which makes battles on the pitch better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,210 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 For me the subs were made because Liverpool’s counter press has been non-existent, multiple times it’s just been one or two players pressing and the whole team disjointed. The immediate change that was noticeable after the subs was that Liverpool’s frontline began pressing aggressively. Issue is they lack quality on the ball without Salah now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,401 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, Danny said: I didn’t say only small teams use it did I? I said specifically, as in heres an example. It’s a method to change the game and if you are a team in control of possession and the speed of the game you will not want the opposition slowing your momentum down. But at extremes it is going to be more noticeable between smaller and bigger teams, or for a team that like to disrupt the opposition such as Atletico Madrid. For me the game is better with it, it creates tension which makes battles on the pitch better. Tension through time-wasting? Hmm, not so sure about that. The battles on the pitch are through quality and talent and tactics. Not through delaying the restart of a game. You can't just change a rule because it favours or doesn't favour a team anyway? It's to eradicate the flow of the game which is purposely initiated when teams are winning or drawing. If anything, time-wasting eradicates the time on offer for any battles on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,626 Posted August 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Spike said: They do, it's just hard to see because it is the exact same colour as the shirt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,210 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stan said: Tension through time-wasting? Hmm, not so sure about that. The battles on the pitch are through quality and talent and tactics. Not through delaying the restart of a game. You can't just change a rule because it favours or doesn't favour a team anyway? It's to eradicate the flow of the game which is purposely initiated when teams are winning or drawing. If anything, time-wasting eradicates the time on offer for any battles on the pitch. Teams who want the ball in play quickly, who are a goal down, get angry. Their fans get angry. The other team reacts to this, continues to wind them up. It creates tension between players, fans and clubs. Literally saw it last season with Newcastle and Arsenal. It exists. The rule is changed to favour a specific style of football, styles that thrive on speed and tempo control. Those teams will benefit the most. Personally I prefer seeing the variety in game and the desperation to effect the opposition, but that option to do so is taken away with this ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,197 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Thank god that Ukrainian lad is shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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