(R16) France 1-0 Belgium - Monday 1st July, 2024

[Stan]

Kick-off 17.00 (BST)

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Venue - Merkur Spiel-Arena, Dusseldorf

[Dave]

I think this could be quite a boring game but given how good the French are defensively my feeling is they'll win this 1-0.

[Azeem]

Yeah like their 2018 WC semifinal

[Michael]

On 28/06/2024 at 15:38, The Palace Fan said:

I think this could be quite a boring game but given how good the French are defensively my feeling is they'll win this 1-0.

I am not sure, I hope they don't both come out conservative in their play. Because there is a hell of a lot of quality in both respective teams. France are probably the slight favourites, but with all the danger men that both teams have, this match could go either way really. However, I think that if Mbappe is on form, then he could be the difference in this game.

[Tommy]

Wow wow wow wow wow. 

[Azeem]

French fries were actually invented in Belgium

[Bluewolf]

2 minutes ago, Beelzebub said:

French fries were actually invented in Belgium

Fries may have been invented in Spain, the first European country in which the potato appeared from the New World colonies.^[34] Professor Paul Ilegems, curator of the Frietmuseum in Bruges, Belgium, believes that Saint Teresa of Ávila of Spain cooked the first french fries

[nudge]

1 minute ago, Bluewolf said:

Fries may have been invented in Spain, the first European country in which the potato appeared from the New World colonies.^[34] Professor Paul Ilegems, curator of the Frietmuseum in Bruges, Belgium, believes that Saint Teresa of Ávila of Spain cooked the first french fries

Is that why they made her a saint?

[Azeem]

5 minutes ago, Bluewolf said:

Fries may have been invented in Spain, the first European country in which the potato appeared from the New World colonies.^[34] Professor Paul Ilegems, curator of the Frietmuseum in Bruges, Belgium, believes that Saint Teresa of Ávila of Spain cooked the first french fries

Many sources say the crispy spuds were most likely invented in the country's northeast neighbor, Belgium. According to lore, the dish was born in Belgium in the winter of 1680, when the fried fish-loving denizens of a city called Namur had to find something else to cook when the local river froze over

[Bluewolf]

Just now, Beelzebub said:

Many sources say the crispy spuds were most likely invented in the country's northeast neighbor, Belgium. According to lore, the dish was born in Belgium in the winter of 1680, when the fried fish-loving denizens of a city called Namur had to find something else to cook when the local river froze over

The Belgians and French have an ongoing dispute about where fries were invented.^[38]

The Belgian food historian Pierre Leclercq has traced the history of the french fry and asserts that "it is clear that fries are of French origin".^[39] They became an emblematic Parisian dish in the 19th century. Frédéric Krieger, a Bavarian musician, learned to cook fries at a roaster on rue Montmartre in Paris in 1842, and took the recipe to Belgium in 1844, where he created his business Fritz and sold "la pomme de terre frite à l'instar de Paris" 'Paris-style fried potatoes'.

[Bluewolf]

5 minutes ago, nudge said:

Is that why they made her a saint?

Saint Spud.. 

[Azeem]

3 minutes ago, Bluewolf said:

The Belgians and French have an ongoing dispute about where fries were invented.^[38]

The Belgian food historian Pierre Leclercq has traced the history of the french fry and asserts that "it is clear that fries are of French origin".^[39] They became an emblematic Parisian dish in the 19th century. Frédéric Krieger, a Bavarian musician, learned to cook fries at a roaster on rue Montmartre in Paris in 1842, and took the recipe to Belgium in 1844, where he created his business Fritz and sold "la pomme de terre frite à l'instar de Paris" 'Paris-style fried potatoes'.

Despite its name and popularity, the French fries are not French. The origins can be found in Belgium, where historians claim potatoes were being fried in the late-1600s.

According to Belgian lore, poor villagers living in Meuse Valley would often ate small fried fish they caught in the river. During the winter months when the river froze, fishing would become an impossible task and forced villagers to find other sources of food.

This is when the villagers turned to the root plant, potatoes, slicing and frying them just like the way they prepared fish. 

American soldiers were first introduced to the fries while they were stationed in Belgium during World War I.

[Bluewolf]

You are determined to ruin this thread @Beelzebub 

Anyway, let this be the last word on the matter, @nudge will probably like the last part of this... 

From the Belgian standpoint, the popularity of the term "french fries" is explained as "French gastronomic hegemony" into which the cuisine of Belgium was assimilated, because of a lack of understanding coupled with a shared language and geographic proximity of the countries.^[38] The Belgian journalist Jo Gérard [fr] claimed that a 1781 family manuscript recounts that potatoes were deep-fried prior to 1680 in the Meuse valley, as a substitute for frying fish when the rivers were frozen.^[29][35] Gérard never produced the manuscript that supports this claim, and "the historical value of this story is open to question".^[42] In any case, it is unrelated to the later history of the french fry, as the potato did not arrive in the region until around 1735. In any case, given 18th-century economic conditions: "it is absolutely unthinkable that a peasant could have dedicated large quantities of fat for cooking potatoes. At most they were sautéed in a pan".^[43]

 

 

[Michael]

I am rooting for the smaller country Belgium, but I have a feeling the French might win. Either way, it should be a good game given the talent on the field. It's great to see Mbappe back.

[nudge]

3 minutes ago, Bluewolf said:

You are determined to ruin this thread @Beelzebub 

Anyway, let this be the last word on the matter, @nudge will probably like the last part of this... 

From the Belgian standpoint, the popularity of the term "french fries" is explained as "French gastronomic hegemony" into which the cuisine of Belgium was assimilated, because of a lack of understanding coupled with a shared language and geographic proximity of the countries.^[38] The Belgian journalist Jo Gérard [fr] claimed that a 1781 family manuscript recounts that potatoes were deep-fried prior to 1680 in the Meuse valley, as a substitute for frying fish when the rivers were frozen.^[29][35] Gérard never produced the manuscript that supports this claim, and "the historical value of this story is open to question".^[42] In any case, it is unrelated to the later history of the french fry, as the potato did not arrive in the region until around 1735. In any case, given 18th-century economic conditions: "it is absolutely unthinkable that a peasant could have dedicated large quantities of fat for cooking potatoes. At most they were sautéed in a pan".^[43]

 

 

Yeah, fucking peasants

[Michael]

Have garlic sales gone up today in Dusseldorf @Tommy?

[Mel81x+]

If France decide to bypass their midfield they'll be better for it. Belgium are just crowding the middle spaces out completely.

[Michael]

Lukaku having a strike partner alongside him today in the quality of Openda, could be an added advantage to Belgium when they attack. But the French have slightly edged the match so far.

[Stan]

Referee missing a clear corner, madness

 

[Stan]

Rabiot booked for what looked like a good tackle. 

[Michael]

De Bruyne with a shot from a free-kick at goal is saved by Magnan by his feet as he kind of kicked the ball away.

[Michael]

The French have picked up 3 bookings already in the opening 25 minutes of this match.

[Michael]

A header by Thuram goes just wide of the post!

[6666]

France continuing to look shit. Spain & Germany have been the only impressive teams so far.

[Stan]

Expected more from both teams.