Guest Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I was going to include Nigeria somewhere as they seem to have the most "talented" out of all African nations. Ivory Coast strikes me as more on the quality side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Before Algeria had this generation of 2014 Slimani, Fegouli, Brahimi etc not much Algerian players were really known in European leagues same goes for Egypt while the likes of Nigeria and Ivory Cost kept on producing quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Stan said: He's the real puppet master. Dubbed by Metallica. I win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Harry said: For me it's a subcategory of talent not the whole thing... This is why I'm having so much trouble defining talent in short. There are too many subcategories of it and it's hard to say it without sounding contradictory. There is defensive talent, finishing talent, flair talent, technique talent, etc. However I think all put into the mix I'm talking more generally here. Ronaldinho and Maradona had tons of that where as the likes of Messi is defined in other bits. It's really difficult to explain, as I said I'd have to write a bible about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,190 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Cameroon are usually a pretty good African nation? If I'm being honest though, if I did a top 10 I wouldn't have any African, Asian, or CONCACAAF nations in my top 10. It'd all be Europe and South America. And it'd be mostly Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Kel 172 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Stopped taking it seriously at "Japan/Korea" as it's clearly a wind up. Thankfully the weird argument about whether someone can like countries because they have a religious/cultural affiliation to them made it more interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 27/12/2018 at 13:19, Blue said: This is why I'm having so much trouble defining talent in short. There are too many subcategories of it and it's hard to say it without sounding contradictory. There is defensive talent, finishing talent, flair talent, technique talent, etc. However I think all put into the mix I'm talking more generally here. Ronaldinho and Maradona had tons of that where as the likes of Messi is defined in other bits. It's really difficult to explain, as I said I'd have to write a bible about it. I think you are overthinking it, truly and honestly. The Top Ten in no particular order is a fairly easy list. France Spain Italy Germany Brazil Argentina England Netherlands (Especially historically) Belgium Portugal Of course, you could add the likes of Croatia, Uruguay, Swiss, Colombia. But honestly, looking at the now and using some history as well, these are the top 10 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Eco said: I think you are overthinking it, truly and honestly. The Top Ten in no particular order is a fairly easy list. France Spain Italy Germany Brazil Argentina England Netherlands (Especially historically) Belgium Portugal Of course, you could add the likes of Croatia, Uruguay, Swiss, Colombia. But honestly, looking at the now and using some history as well, these are the top 10 for me. Belgium over Uruguay that seems the only one odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Azeem said: Belgium over Uruguay that's seem the only one odd. I have no complaints with that. Belgium is mostly because they are probably the 2nd more talented team at the moment (behind France), and don't look to be slowing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Talent exists in every country in the world lads. Not just Europe and South America. Making it to the top level is a whole different beast though, it requires intelligence and physique, something not all academies in the world can afford to train at a consistent basis. Talent though exists everywhere. I know players from Bhutan and Bolivia who are talented but aren't valued in the market nor have the rest needed to succeed. We all have different views on the definition of "talent" but it does get on my tits whenever someone claims that only 2 continents are talented. I agree that only 2 continents in the world have world class teams, but not the only talented landmasses in the world. Africa and parts of Asia in particular are extremely talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Salford Kel said: Stopped taking it seriously at "Japan/Korea" as I don't understand what talent is and know shit all about Asian football Corrected it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 27/12/2018 at 14:38, Dr. Gonzo said: Cameroon are usually a pretty good African nation? If I'm being honest though, if I did a top 10 I wouldn't have any African, Asian, or CONCACAAF nations in my top 10. It'd all be Europe and South America. And it'd be mostly Europe. See, this is your own opinion but I'm going to assume you haven't seen some of the Colombians and Peruvians that didn't make it at top level. They are amongsts some of the most talented players on the planet but have no intelligence at all, don't manage their image and don't have any teamwork. Particularly in Peru, there is a saying. "Si quisieras". Which means, "If you really wanted to". This is said to the talented players who don't manage themselves and as a result play for provincial clubs as the consequences. I find it silly that you'd include mostly Europe because South America is much more talented. Just not balanced enough to form World Cup winning teams. Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, and Venezuela are superbly talented. It's not all Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay. Just because they have the players who make it to the top level, doesn't mean they are the only ones. Their position in the market really helps them. Each to their own though, but you really need to look at players such as Reimond Manco and Mateo Cardona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Eco said: I think you are overthinking it, truly and honestly. Talent for me is a really complex matter that requires overthinking. So you're right but it's each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris 2,606 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Of alltime:- 1. Brazil 2. Argentina 3. Germany 4. Italy 5. France 6. Spain 7. Netherlands 8. England 9. Portugal 10. Uruguay The first one is set in stone in Brazil, but the others are difficult to decide on the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,664 Posted January 3, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 3, 2019 1. Peru 2. Africa Am I funny now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted January 3, 2019 Administrator Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: 1. Peru 2. Africa Am I funny now? Depends if Egypt is part of number 2 or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserker 1,332 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stan said: Depends if Egypt is part of number 2 or not... Shut up, you cannot be both Indian and Asian at the same time, unless you have dual nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Berserker said: Shut up, you cannot be both Indian and Asian at the same time, unless you have dual nationality. India does not accepts dual nationality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Azeem said: India does not accepts dual nationality Beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted January 3, 2019 Administrator Share Posted January 3, 2019 40 minutes ago, Berserker said: Shut up, you cannot be both Indian and Asian at the same time, unless you have dual nationality. Can you be Egyptian and African at the same time though? This guy knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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