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Bundesliga 2019/20 [12. Spieltag] - 22-24th November, 2019

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all kick-offs 14.30 unless stated

Friday 22nd November, 2019
Borussia Dortmund vs SC Paderborn, 19.30

Saturday 23rd November, 2019
Union Berlin vs Borussia Monchengladbach
Bayer Leverkusen vs SC Freiburg
Eintracht Frankfurt vs Wolfsburg
Fortuna Dusseldorf vs Bayern Munich
Werder Bremen vs Schalke
RB Leipzig vs Koln, 17.30

Sunday 24th November, 2019
Augsburg vs Hertha Berlin, 14.30
Hoffenheim vs Mainz, 17.30

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I think after this international break, Bayern should rest a few players like Gnabry, Lewandowski, Goretzka etc. 

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5 hours ago, Tommy said:

I think after this international break, Bayern should rest a few players like Gnabry, Lewandowski, Goretzka etc. 

:D you forgot Kimmich

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"United against the record champion."

Can't wait :banana:

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3 minutes ago, Stan said:

Dortmund wtf are you doing

Ruining my prediction that's what.... 

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3-0 to Paderborn. This is embarrassing for Dortmund :o 

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Lucien Favre can't believe it. Got a proper Vince McMahon look on him.

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That's probably the end of him if BVB don't turn it around in the second half. 0-3 down in half time at home against Paderborn is really pathetic.

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Fair play to Paderborn though... 3-0 is not just a lucky score to be leading by at half time it's a rout.. 

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16 minutes ago, Stan said:

3-0 to Paderborn. This is embarrassing for Dortmund :o 

Emabarrassing for Bayern. Paderborn are better than Bayern. :)

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6 minutes ago, BartraPique1932 said:

Emabarrassing for Bayern. Paderborn are better than Bayern. :)

what?

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Dortmund already get a goal back!

Had a rocket up their arses no doubt.

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Witsel! 2-3!

Good ball back in from Hummels. Paderborn lost concentration a little.

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3-3! Comeback complete!

Reus with a header. 

Could sense it coming. Paderborn were running on empty.

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1 minute ago, BartraPique1932 said:

for Dortmund.

Yeah it's unfortunate for both sides really. Paderborn will be disappointed to have wasted a 3-0 lead (even if they'd gladly take a draw and a point away at Dortmund I'm sure) and BVB will be disappointed with only managing a draw against Paderborn at home. 

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17 hours ago, nudge said:

Yeah it's unfortunate for both sides really. Paderborn will be disappointed to have wasted a 3-0 lead (even if they'd gladly take a draw and a point away at Dortmund I'm sure) and BVB will be disappointed with only managing a draw against Paderborn at home. 

Dortmund really should be beating a side like Paderborn at home. Dortmund have so much talent and so much potential, but they are just not fulfilling what they are capable of a lot of the time. They need much more consistency if they are going to seriously challenge for major competitions. 

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Just now, Michael said:

Dortmund really should be beating a side like Paderborn at home. Dortmund have so much talent and so much potential, but they are just not fulfilling what they are capable of a lot of the time. They need much more consistency if they are going to seriously challenge for major competitions. 

Yeah they're like the new Leverkusen in terms of underachieving...

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1 minute ago, nudge said:

Yeah they're like the new Leverkusen in terms of underachieving...

Yes, to a certain extent. Leverkusen have historically underachieved at the last hurdle, but as I have said several times on here, I think that hiring Peter Bosz as their manager was a huge mistake. In my opinion, a much more pragmatic manager would suit them and get more out of them as a team.

Leverkusen have some very good players, but overall, Dortmund have the better squad. Dortmund have a squad that can seriously compete for major competitions like the Champions League and the Bundesliga, but erratic results and displays like yesterday's result are what is holding them back. Maybe they should concentrate more on the defensive side of their game, I also don't think that a player like Dahoud is good enough to be starting either, certainly not in the defensive midfield position.

Either way, I hope that Dortmund do finally become more consistent, we want to see results like their 4-0 win over Atletico Madrid last season! That is the kind of high level performance that we know that they are capable of.

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Weghorst's goal surprisingly gave Wolfsburg the lead in Frankfurt, which was dissapointing for us. But Wolfsburg have had Tisserand sent off just before half-time, so hopefully we can turn this result around in the second half.

Ex Leeds goalkeeper Felix Wiedwald gets a rare start for Frankfurt today, because our first choice goalkeepers Trapp and Ronnow are both respectively out due to an injury in Trapp's case and an infection in Ronnow's case. It's kind of good to see that we have depth even in the goalkeeper position, but I still think that Trapp and Ronnow are much better goalkeepers that Wiedwald is. Nevertheless, he's not the worst 3rd choice goalkeeper to have, he's quite good when he's on form.

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Frankfurt 2 nil down now to Wolfsburg, I can't believe that we haven't at least taken advantage of us being a man up. Having said that, I can't begrudge Wolfsburg the lead, they have been the more smart team on the field so far. There's about a quarter of an hour of the match to go, hopefully we will score a goal or two, but I am not counting my chickens.

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Bringing on Burgstaller for the last 10 minutes was almost a disaster - he gave away the ball every time except one - an open goal and an attempt which went out to the far side for a throw in to Bremen.  Enough said and if I have to be honest the little Japanese man in Green was really the best man on the field today.

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15 minutes ago, SchalkeUK said:

Bringing on Burgstaller for the last 10 minutes was almost a disaster - he gave away the ball every time except one - an open goal and an attempt which went out to the far side for a throw in to Bremen.  Enough said and if I have to be honest the little Japanese man in Green was really the best man on the field today.

I didn't watch the Werder Bremen v Schalke match, but I can't say that I am surprised about hearing how poor Burgstaller was. I think we've said before that he is not good enough to play for Schalke. He'd probably do well in the 2 Bundesliga, as he has his uses as a big hard working centre forward, but he lacks the class to be playing for a big club like Schalke.

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In all honesty, it was a poor performance by Frankfurt against Wolfsburg today. Wolfsburg rightfully won as they were the better team. Frankfurt created chances, but we just weren't clinical enough, most annoying is the fact that I thought that we would at least throw the kitchen sink at Wolfsburg in the dying moments when we had little to lose, but we hardly created any clear cut chances in the last 5 or 10 minutes or so. 

Apart from Bas Dost's goal which was ruled out for being marginally offside, as well as Paciencia's first half diving header which forced Casteels into a good save and lastly Durm's late shot which was once again saved by Casteels, Frankfurt didn't create any other clear cut chances. All the other efforts by Frankfurt were essentially half chances. Weghorst was smart to nick his goal with his clever header from Arnold's shot, but Wolfsburg deserved this win.

Obviously Wiedwald made a terrible mistake for Wolfsburg's second goal from Victor and we will definitely be glad to have either Trapp or Ronnow back to replace Wiedwald again. I have always said that having a class goalkeeper makes a huge difference to a team. Wiedwald is several rungs below Trapp and Ronnow in terms of quality. Wiedwald is a decent shot stopper, but he is prone to mistakes at times, as we witnessed today and he never ever seems to be able to hold on to a ball to save his life. He always either palms or fists the ball away, which on many occasions leads to danger from the rebound. 

I think Hutter is yet to find the best combination for Frankfurt. He does change the lineups a lot, because we do have depth as a team, but it seems like that might be affecting our performances to an extent. We've played some excellent football at times this season, but today was clearly not one of our better performances. I hope we display a much improved performance against Arsenal in our next match.

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