Spike Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 England actually showed some go with the ball, just the bat was embarrassing Australia’s bottom order is a world apart from England’s. Cummins, Starc, Lyon, not great batsemen but they go out and you can tell there is determination to score, England not so much, Broad, Anderson, Leach, whomever else just look they want it to be over. They have no battle left. Worst England side ever? Saw a picture that over the last year extras was England’s third highest scorerer behind Burns and Root, Concerning that Burns is the second best batsmen on England, he couldn’t do a single thing right and looked as rattled as I would coming up against a fastball from Starc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) On 28/12/2021 at 14:25, The Artful Dodger said: The worst there’s been for England, the team is just shit now. Not even bottlers, just shit. Root is only top level player left now, if I’m being generous I’d throw in Stokes but I’m not sure he really is that often at test level. Broad and Anderson former greats of course, Anderson can still do it now and then. Think you're being a tad harsh to Stokes. Never forget what he's done for us in the past including Headingley. Don't forget he's missed most of the year battling mental health, I don't think the Ashes was the best time to come back for him personally but given our predicament, I think he felt he owed it to us to play. He was a shadow of himself unfortunately. We've not had a decent opener since Cook unfortunately so everytime Root is coming to the crease, we are 1 or 2 down for 20 odd. I don't rate Burns or Hameed at all. They are incapable of seeing off the new ball and rarely put together big scores. Definitely don't put the pressure back on the bowling attack like Trescothick or Strauss would. Buttler deserves dropping. He's the biggest one for me, a brilliant ODI and T20 star but at test level its not for him. I'd also drop Bairstow. They both survive on their name and because we have no emerging back ups but it's time to drop them from the test equation going forward. I do think we miss Archer and we've been unlucky to lose him as long as we have, which puts yet more emphasis on Jimmy Anderson who we over rely on. The others like Wood, Woakes etc are majorly inconsistent. And finally, we miss a good spinner. Giles and Swann carried the flag for the best part of recent years but other than Rashid, we've really struggled to produce top class spin. Leach doesn't have the weapons and he's a specialist. I'd even rate Moheen above him. Edited December 29, 2021 by Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 4 hours ago, Lucas said: Think you're being a tad harsh to Stokes. Never forget what he's done for us in the past including Headingley. Don't forget he's missed most of the year battling mental health, I don't think the Ashes was the best time to come back for him personally but given our predicament, I think he felt he owed it to us to play. He was a shadow of himself unfortunately. We've not had a decent opener since Cook unfortunately so everytime Root is coming to the crease, we are 1 or 2 down for 20 odd. I don't rate Burns or Hameed at all. They are incapable of seeing off the new ball and rarely put together big scores. Definitely don't put the pressure back on the bowling attack like Trescothick or Strauss would. Buttler deserves dropping. He's the biggest one for me, a brilliant ODI and T20 star but at test level its not for him. I'd also drop Bairstow. They both survive on their name and because we have no emerging back ups but it's time to drop them from the test equation going forward. I do think we miss Archer and we've been unlucky to lose him as long as we have, which puts yet more emphasis on Jimmy Anderson who we over rely on. The others like Wood, Woakes etc are majorly inconsistent. And finally, we miss a good spinner. Giles and Swann carried the flag for the best part of recent years but other than Rashid, we've really struggled to produce top class spin. Leach doesn't have the weapons and he's a specialist. I'd even rate Moheen above him. That's fair, I was being harsh on Stokes. He's in the top class bracket, all rounders can't be expected to be averaging 50 etc. Archer was definitely a big miss, he would have caused problems. Other than that, it's just dreadful. Admittedly I'm a snob about shorter forms of cricket but England can't seem to find any balance, and these constant whippings in Australia are just demoralising, for the whole sport because the Ashes is the number 1 spectacle in Test Cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Sickening https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/jamie-mitchell-cricket-abuse-on-india-and-sri-lanka-tour/100715912?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf252533245&utm_campaign=fb_abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf252533245=1&fbclid=IwAR1jgEIfqDM1Dgo0ayWG1bvMb5m82DE0Pjo_d-iSDP-K3uKHXeeHHN-MfaM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Hafeez retires from internationals. Last of the underrated spin trio with Afridi and Ajmal. Decent batter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Literally should have all 5 tests in Perth. You’d have maximum crowds, and no fucking rain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Leach is a discount Lyon and as @Devil-Dick Williesays Gazza is a bit of a fucking discount in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I was initially annoyed Kwahaja was brought in but only due to his age and I am not a scout. 120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Spike said: I was initially annoyed Kwahaja was brought in but only due to his age and I am not a scout. 120 Khawaja. It was an honorific title for noblemen in the midevil times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Khan of TF365 said: Khawaja. It was an honorific title for noblemen in the midevil times. I was on my phone and not wearing my glasses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Spike said: Leach is a discount Lyon and as @Devil-Dick Williesays Gazza is a bit of a fucking discount in the first place I would say, and I’m not exaggerating here, that the GOAT is possibly 2-3 trillion times better than Leach. Also, fair play to Khawaja , some score that! Edited January 6, 2022 by Toinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Spike said: I was initially annoyed Kwahaja was brought in but only due to his age and I am not a scout. 120 I've always been a big fan. I have a mate whos a bit of a right winger, 2 actually, and the way Usman has been treated throughout his career has taught them both that institutional racism exists. Every time he fails, a thousand articles are written about how he looks "lazy" and "not bothered" And then he's replaced by a square jawed idiot who scored half the runs and inevitably Usman is put back in. Bancroft, S Marsh, Handscome, Burns, Harris. It's all the same story. When he scores 100 lazy and uninterested becomes "cool" and "collected" of course. Even today that utter cock licker Mark Waugh was harassing him for "scratching around, getting lots of 1s" It's called building an innings and rotating the strike you fucking plonker. A bunch of ex players already come out saying "yeah, 138 is cool, but I wouldn't drop Harris, his 30 was good in tough conditions" Cunt, if his 30 was good, then whats Khawajas 130? And Harris averages 24. Let it go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I've always been a big fan. I have a mate whos a bit of a right winger, 2 actually, and the way Usman has been treated throughout his career has taught them both that institutional racism exists. Every time he fails, a thousand articles are written about how he looks "lazy" and "not bothered" And then he's replaced by a square jawed idiot who scored half the runs and inevitably Usman is put back in. Bancroft, S Marsh, Handscome, Burns, Harris. It's all the same story. When he scores 100 lazy and uninterested becomes "cool" and "collected" of course. Even today that utter cock licker Mark Waugh was harassing him for "scratching around, getting lots of 1s" It's called building an innings and rotating the strike you fucking plonker. A bunch of ex players already come out saying "yeah, 138 is cool, but I wouldn't drop Harris, his 30 was good in tough conditions" Cunt, if his 30 was good, then whats Khawajas 130? And Harris averages 24. Let it go. Does Usman open as well? I thought he looked slick in his role in the middle order. Harris was improved this innings. Just sucks that Labuschange and Khawaja couldn’t build a QLD parntership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Spike said: Does Usman open as well? I thought he looked slick in his role in the middle order. Harris was improved this innings. Just sucks that Labuschange and Khawaja couldn’t build a QLD parntership He averages 90 at opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: He averages 90 at opener. how many innings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Spike said: how many innings 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: He averages 90 at opener. Jesus and he was still dropped?! It’s a shame Mark Waugh isn’t a good commentator etc, he was one of my favourite cricket players growing up Edited January 6, 2022 by Toinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Toinho said: Jesus and he was still dropped?! It’s a shame Mark Waugh isn’t a good commentator etc, he was one of my favourite crickets growing up He's a sour old cunt. And was leading the anti Usman charge. "He should have been out for 28" Waugh when Usman scored 100. Meanwhile Warner got dropped twice, had a missed run out easy chance and was a hero for his 90 in the first test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Warnie is the worst when he talking about players. Painfully obvious he is jealous of Cummins, which is fucking weird because Warnie is quite literally one of the best of all time.That and Melbourne ah the mcg love the mcg how good is the mcg love tests at the mcg how good are tests at the mcg mcg is great shoule play more at the mcg However he is actually quite proactive and thoughtful when it comes to the laws of the sport. Loved the idea of suspending captains if they couldn’t keep up the over rate. they’d instantly cut out the mucking around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 fucking england, come on give us a fucking game. want on a cheeky root double ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Never mind, England collapsed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Spike said: However he is actually quite proactive and thoughtful when it comes to the laws of the sport. Loved the idea of suspending captains if they couldn’t keep up the over rate. they’d instantly cut out the mucking around. I hate the idea of suspending captains for slow over rate, as they're only partially in control. Personally, I think adding 3 runs per over missed is the go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 A little bit of fight here from England, no pun intended… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, Toinho said: A little bit of fight here from England, no pun intended… Till megamind took out stokesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Bairstow with a century at the close of play. England not that far behind now really, Wood’s dismissal was a bit lucky perhaps - excellent review, tbh he was smacking the worlds best bowler all of the park for a bit there haha. Well done to Bairstow though, big ginger lad, bit like @Honey Honey I’d imagine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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