True Blue Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 He won't be sacked no matter the results. He will remain manager until the end of the year it's almost certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted November 12, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted November 12, 2019 There's still something there for them this season if they can create the right bounce around the club with a new manager. Problem is balancing that with an actual long-term plan so it may be that they just accept this season as a mess and spend the time lining up the right changes for the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted November 13, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted November 13, 2019 Watching the first 7 minutes of this post the Klopp interview and hearing Arsene speak about the acquisitions they could have had and how their fortunes would have turned is astounding. They almost had Pique and Ronaldo. There was fantasy talk about Messi but I doubt that would have ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 13, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 13, 2019 Safe to say Arsenal have definitely gone backwards since hiring Emery? Not to say that keeping Wenger was the answer, but perhaps Emery wasn't either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, Stan said: Safe to say Arsenal have definitely gone backwards since hiring Emery? Not to say that keeping Wenger was the answer, but perhaps Emery wasn't either... Wenger shits all over Emery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Any manager that takes over Arsenal will have a huge task at his hand. You can't change the clubs fortunes with a few big signings and a new manager. I always believed that teams have along term plan, obviously not that obvious at Chelsea with the switch of managers. However i personally don't see a play at Arsenal, same old players and same type of signings with no visible improvements for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted November 15, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted November 15, 2019 Top four is now a necessity for us. It's there for the taking. Arsenal and Man Utd have been as shambolic as all competitors hoped they would be. The manner of Arsenal's perfomances have been absolutely worrying. Some terrible set ups and performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Dan said: Top four is now a necessity for us. It's there for the taking. Arsenal and Man Utd have been as shambolic as all competitors hoped they would be. The manner of Arsenal's perfomances have been absolutely worrying. Some terrible set ups and performances. Did you use your thumbs and palms in a thorough pressing motion when you wrote this mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 13/11/2019 at 18:50, Stan said: Safe to say Arsenal have definitely gone backwards since hiring Emery? Not to say that keeping Wenger was the answer, but perhaps Emery wasn't either... Also bare in mind that is Wenger at his worst. For the first 22 years there was no comparison Wenger was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: Also bare in mind that is Wenger at his worst. For the first 22 years there was no comparison Wenger was better. I don't think anyone normal was ever looking to compare Arséne Wenger with Unai Emery as that is firstly a stupid and unnecessary thing to do and most importantly it would make the person throwing that argument into the ring a Wenger fanatic which then cancels you out from having any merit in your opinion. Wenger's time was over and some people have to forget him now and get over it because the club is the most important thing... It was there before him and it'll be there long after he's gone! What's evident is that Unai Emery needs to go! Be it because he's lost the dressing room or for whatever reason, it's visible that we are ONCE AGAIN starting to go backwards and we hadn't advanced enough after Wenger's departure and Emery's appointment to be able to permit ourselves this sort of affliction. Action must be taken ASAP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, SirBalon said: I don't think anyone normal was ever looking to compare Arséne Wenger with Unai Emery as that is firstly a stupid and unnecessary thing to do and most importantly it would make the person throwing that argument into the ring a Wenger fanatic which then cancels you out from having any merit in your opinion. Wenger's time was over and some people have to forget him now and get over it because the club is the most important thing... It was there before him and it'll be there long after he's gone! What's evident is that Unai Emery needs to go! Be it because he's lost the dressing room or for whatever reason, it's visible that we are ONCE AGAIN starting to go backwards and we hadn't advanced enough after Wenger's departure and Emery's appointment to be able to permit ourselves this sort of affliction. Action must be taken ASAP! I'm not a Wenger fanatic.I said he needed to go at the end loads of times. But virtually everyone on this forum has said Emery should go including your buddy @Panna Kingt. In fact he wanted him gone after the 5.1 defeat at anfield last year. And considering you have proven that you are arrogant, self opinionated and clearly unable to see another point of view I don't really have any interest in what you have to say Edited November 15, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 13/11/2019 at 19:40, LFCMadLad said: Wenger shits all over Emery. Wenger had players like Bergkamp in his team and a solid defence handed to him when he took over, you cannot compare really Wengers start to Emery. Overall Wenger had to leave Arsenal he is an old man now but Emery is just the wrong choice to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Panna King said: Wenger had players like Bergkamp in his team and a solid defence handed to him when he took over, you cannot compare really Wengers start to Emery. Overall Wenger had to leave Arsenal he is an old man now but Emery is just the wrong choice to replace him. He signed loads of top players. Arsenal were no where near title contenders before he came in. We finished 5th before he came in,12th the year before. Wenger in prime would have got this team in the champion's League which is more than Emery has done. There no doubt Wenger was a top manager in his day from anyone rational. Edited November 15, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: He signed loads of top players. Arsenal were no where near title contenders before he came in. We finished 5th before he came in,12th the year before.There no doubt Wenger was a top manager in his day from anyone rational. Yes Wenger was a class coach but I meant at the start he only signed Vieira before he actually took over, Garde and Grimandi also came in. He had a very well organised defence with Adams etc, Emery inherited a mess defensively but it has got worse under him. Edited November 15, 2019 by Panna King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Gunnersauraus said: He signed loads of top players. Arsenal were no where near title contenders before he came in. We finished 5th before he came in,12th the year before. Wenger in prime would have got this team in the champion's League which is more than Emery has done. There no doubt Wenger was a top manager in his day from anyone rational. I hate Arsenal and i hated Wegner, but anyone who says he was anything but a World Class manager is a complete tool. If i was him only thing i would do differently is to step down on time, think he stayed a few seasons longer than he should and perhaps tarnished his legacy in the general public. However i feel the Arsenal faithful don't have bad memories of him apart from the Arsenal TV blud fam army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, True Blue said: I hate Arsenal and i hated Wegner, but anyone who says he was anything but a World Class manager is a complete tool. If i was him only thing i would do differently is to step down on time, think he stayed a few seasons longer than he should and perhaps tarnished his legacy in the general public. However i feel the Arsenal faithful don't have bad memories of him apart from the Arsenal TV blud fam army. The thing is that when Arsenal built the Emirates they weren't counting on a few things. First if all they didn't know Chelsea were gonna come along and they didn't know about the massive increase in TV revenue that was about to happen. When they built the Emirates they thought they were gonna have limited spending for a few years and then they would be able to outspend almost all clubs. And they would only have to catch man utd. However Chelsea came along and then man city. So suddenly instead of there being one big club to compete with at the top there are 3. Big difference. Also because of the increase in TV revenue the money from selling tickets isn't worth as much as it was. So building the Emirates so we could spend more than other clubs didn't quite work out. Any manager would have struggled with the spending restrictions Wenger had up untill 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Panna King said: Yes Wenger was a class coach but I meant at the start he only signed Vieira before he actually took over, Garde and Grimandi also came in. He had a very well organised defence with Adams etc, Emery inherited a mess defensively but it has got worse under him. Well that's fair enough if you admitting he was a good coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: Well that's fair enough if you admitting he was a good coach. I never said he was bad, he just stayed way to long and became a dinosaur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said: I'm not a Wenger fanatic.I said he needed to go at the end loads of times. But virtually everyone on this forum has said Emery should go including your buddy @Panna Kingt. In fact he wanted him gone after the 5.1 defeat at anfield last year. And considering you have proven that you are arrogant, self opinionated and clearly unable to see another point of view I don't really have any interest in what you have to say You have a problem with reading writing mate. I also said Unai Emery needs to go. That arrogance is a figment of your imagination in the same manner as all those left-wing tv stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted November 15, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 hours ago, SirBalon said: Did you use your thumbs and palms in a thorough pressing motion when you wrote this mate? I just typed it I think? It's more in reaction to Emery being safe than just aimless goading. I've hit the point with you where I think Arsenal are better just without Emery for the rest of the season regardless and just getting in a caretaker. Things have clearly gone quite sour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, SirBalon said: You have a problem with reading writing mate. I also said Unai Emery needs to go. That arrogance is a figment of your imagination in the same manner as all those left-wing tv stations. You are arrogant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 45 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: You are arrogant. There are reasons as to why you could say I am arrogant in the way I write especially when someone quotes me and more so while accusing me of not agreeing with the very thing I actually wrote. On the same note I could accuse you of being down right thick and there have been plenty of instances of this possible assumption I could come to believe while even discounting today’s embarrassing example. But I haven’t accused you of being thick while you have labelled me as being arrogant. I may have to be more bold in my movements in the forum if this is the way it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Dan said: I just typed it I think? It's more in reaction to Emery being safe than just aimless goading. I've hit the point with you where I think Arsenal are better just without Emery for the rest of the season regardless and just getting in a caretaker. Things have clearly gone quite sour. I agree mate... I was just being facetious and sarcastic. Emery has shown he cannot accomplish the absolutely monstrous job in hand. It’s not an easy job for so many reasons. We need a new coach asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, SirBalon said: There are reasons as to why you could say I am arrogant in the way I write especially when someone quotes me and more so while accusing me of not agreeing with the very thing I actually wrote. On the same note I could accuse you of being down right thick and there have been plenty of instances of this possible assumption I could come to believe while even discounting today’s embarrassing example. But I haven’t accused you of being thick while you have labelled me as being arrogant. I may have to be more bold in my movements in the forum if this is the way it goes. You are arrogant. On various topics such as Brexit, veganism and various football topics you have said that people who don't agree with you are either dumb, un informed or biased. Completely ignoring your own biases or lack of information. If haven't met you but I would be very surprised if you weren't arrogant in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: You are arrogant. On various topics such as Brexit, veganism and various football topics you have said that people who don't agree with you are either dumb, un informed or biased. Completely ignoring your own biases or lack of information. If haven't met you but I would be very surprised if you weren't arrogant in person. Listen sunshine... Go back to school and learn something. Do not dictate to me unless you have something worthy of me taking notice. Now that’s arrogance. Now jog on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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