Mpache Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 Basically any league that exports players to one of the top 5 in Europe. Here are my candidates MLS Alphonso Davies - 26M to Bayern Miguel Almiron - 24M to Newcastle Tyler Adams - 2.6M to RB Leipzig Zack Steffen - 7.5M to Manchester City Jack Harrison - 4.4M to Manchester City Austrian Bundesliga Dario Maresic - 3.3M to Reims Mert Muldur - 4.3M to Sassuolo Erling Haaland - 22M to Borussia Dortmund Hannes Wolf - 13M to RB Leipzig Takumi Minamino - 9.3M to Liverpool Valentino Lazaro - 11.5M to Hertha Berlin Konrad Laimer - 7.7M to RB Leipzig Olarenwaju Kayode - 4.18M to Manchester City Naby Keita - 32M to RB Leipzig Dayot Upamecano - 11M to RB Leipzig Eredivisie Luis Suarez - 25M to Liverpool Mathijs de Ligt - 94M to Juventus Frenkie De Jong - 82M to Barcelona Hirving Lozano - 44M to Napoli Steve Bergwijn - 33M to Tottenham Hotspur Alireza Jahanbakhsh - 20M to Brighton Justin Kluivert - 19M to Roma Santiago Arias - 12M to Atletico Madrid Terrence Kongolo - 16M to Monaco Davinson Sanchez - 44M to Ajax Vincent Janssen - 24M to Tottenham Hotspur Dries Mertens - 9.4M to Napoli Belgian Pro-League Kevin de Bruyne - 8M to Chelsea Kalidou Koulibaly - 7M to Napoli Mbwana Samatta - 10M to Aston Villa Moussa Djenepo - 15M to Southampton Wilfred Ndidi - 17M to Leicester City Leander Dendocker - 13M to Wolverhampton Wanderers Victor Oshimen - 12M to LOSC Lille Moussa Wague - 5M to Barcelona Youri Tielemans - 25M to Monaco Thibaut Courtois - 8M to Chelsea Romelu Lukaku - 15M to Chelsea Portuguese League Joao Felix - 108M to Atletico Madrid Bruno Fernandes - 55M to Manchester United Eder Militao - 50M to Real Madrid James Rodriguez - 45M to Monaco Joao Mario - 45M to Inter Milan Falcao - 40M to Atletico Madrid Nelson Semedo - 35M to Barcelona Victor Lindelof - 35M to Manchester United Fabio Coentrao - 30M to Real Madrid Brazilian Serie A Neymar - 80M to FC Barcelona Rodrygo Goes - 45M to Real Madrid Vinicius Jr - 45M to Real madrid Lucas Moura - 40M to PSG Gabriel Jesus - 38M to Manchester City Renan Lodi - 20M to Atletico Madrid Bruno Guimaraes - 20M to Olympique Lyonnais Yerry Mina - 8M to FC Barcelona Charles Aranguiz - 13M to Bayer Leverkusen
Mpache Posted June 15, 2020 Author Posted June 15, 2020 I'm tipping it to the Pro-League. The Eredivisie and Liga NOS have exported better players but they are no long "bargain central" if you get me. You can get players of similar quality in Belgium for much cheaper.
nudge Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Inti Brian said: Austrian Bundesliga Dario Maresic - 3.3M to Reims Mert Muldur - 4.3M to Sassuolo Erling Haaland - 22M to Borussia Dortmund Hannes Wolf - 13M to RB Leipzig Takumi Minamino - 9.3M to Liverpool Valentino Lazaro - 11.5M to Hertha Berlin Konrad Laimer - 7.7M to RB Leipzig Olarenwaju Kayode - 4.18M to Manchester City Naby Keita - 32M to RB Leipzig Dayot Upamecano - 11M to RB Leipzig A few other bigger ones that are missing: Sadio Mane - 23M to Southampton Duje Caleta-Car - 19M to Marseille Amadou Haidara - 19M to RB Leipzig Munas Dabbur - 17M to Sevilla Xaver Schlager - 15M to Wolfsburg Stefan Lainer - 12M to Gladbach Diade Samassekou - 12M to Hoffenheim Kevin Kampl - 12M to BVB Martin Hinteregger - 10M to Augsburg
Mpache Posted June 15, 2020 Author Posted June 15, 2020 Just now, nudge said: A few other bigger ones that are missing: Sadio Mane - 23M to Southampton Duje Caleta-Car - 19M to Marseille Amadou Haidara - 19M to RB Leipzig Munas Dabbur - 17M to Sevilla Xaver Schlager - 15M to Wolfsburg Stefan Lainer - 12M to Gladbach Diade Samassekou - 12M to Hoffenheim Kevin Kampl - 12M to BVB Martin Hinteregger - 10M to Augsburg I couldn't include everyone, but Mane is one that slipped my mind entirely. If I had remembered, he would have been there for sure.
Administrator Stan Posted June 15, 2020 Administrator Posted June 15, 2020 Swiss league as well? Basel, from memory, have produced some decent players... Shaqiri, Rakitic, Sommer, Granit Xhaka, Derdiyok...?
nudge Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stan said: Swiss league as well? Basel, from memory, have produced some decent players... Shaqiri, Rakitic, Sommer, Granit Xhaka, Derdiyok...? Good call. Also Salah, Embolo, Akanji, Elyounoussi, Caicedo (all Basel), Zakaria (Young Boys), Ricardo Rodriguez (Zürich). Basel's academy and youth development is insane.
Smiley Culture Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 It’s incredibly sad that any league is deemed a “feeder” but it’s the way Football has gone due to the advent of the Champions League.
Lucas Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 The Austrian and Swiss leagues show there is great hidden talent to be had rather than pay through the nose in your own country. Something I wanted to just pick up on though. Is Ligue 1 in the same bracket as the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga? I think its been on the decline for years and PSG are single handedly keeping it afloat thanks to their oil money. Anyway, not to digress, but the point I was getting at is that league must arguably be the most popular in being a feeder league to the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and Bundesliga given the sheer quantity of French players spread across Europe. Probably ridiculous figures.
Mpache Posted June 15, 2020 Author Posted June 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lucas said: The Austrian and Swiss leagues show there is great hidden talent to be had rather than pay through the nose in your own country. Something I wanted to just pick up on though. Is Ligue 1 in the same bracket as the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga? I think its been on the decline for years and PSG are single handedly keeping it afloat thanks to their oil money. Anyway, not to digress, but the point I was getting at is that league must arguably be the most popular in being a feeder league to the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and Bundesliga given the sheer quantity of French players spread across Europe. Probably ridiculous figures. Yeah, I was considering in adding France to that list, but the leagues are seen as the "top 5 in Europe" not the "top 4". Your point is extremely valid though nevertheless.
Eco Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, Lucas said: The Austrian and Swiss leagues show there is great hidden talent to be had rather than pay through the nose in your own country. Something I wanted to just pick up on though. Is Ligue 1 in the same bracket as the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga? I think its been on the decline for years and PSG are single handedly keeping it afloat thanks to their oil money. Anyway, not to digress, but the point I was getting at is that league must arguably be the most popular in being a feeder league to the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A and Bundesliga given the sheer quantity of French players spread across Europe. Probably ridiculous figures. French football has certainly been on the decline for years. And in most ways it could be considered a 'feeder' league. Lyon themselves have been arguably the 2nd best team in France over the past decade, yet they keep losing their best players...and the players they are losing end up being massive stars elsewhere. I'm constantly amazed about talent that Lyon seems to get young, and then sell high. Their scouting is absolutely world class.
Eco Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 And I would say that the Bundesliga (outside of Bayern) even appears rather 'feeder-ish', and I felt this way since we saw a childhood fans of Dortmund leave for Bayern (Gotze), and while their may be more to that transfer than originally thought, but it does feel like the major clubs just cycle through players like dirty underwear while the rest of the world catches up. We certainly have some outliers, that seem to perform on the world stage with more of a controlled budget, but really with the money involved, it's really down to maybe a dozen teams in Europe that can compete internationally.
Guest Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, Eco said: And I would say that the Bundesliga (outside of Bayern) even appears rather 'feeder-ish', and I felt this way since we saw a childhood fans of Dortmund leave for Bayern (Gotze), and while their may be more to that transfer than originally thought, but it does feel like the major clubs just cycle through players like dirty underwear while the rest of the world catches up. We certainly have some outliers, that seem to perform on the world stage with more of a controlled budget, but really with the money involved, it's really down to maybe a dozen teams in Europe that can compete internationally. To be honest most premier League clubs are feeder clubs to bigger clubs. It's only really Chelsea, city and utd that aren't
Dr. Gonzo Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Stan said: Swiss league as well? Basel, from memory, have produced some decent players... Shaqiri, Rakitic, Sommer, Granit Xhaka, Derdiyok...? Salah too, right?
Administrator Stan Posted June 15, 2020 Administrator Posted June 15, 2020 58 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Salah too, right? Yes of course! Genuinely forgot he went to Chelsea from Basel!
Devil-Dick Willie Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Eco said: And I would say that the Bundesliga (outside of Bayern) even appears rather 'feeder-ish', and I felt this way since we saw a childhood fans of Dortmund leave for Bayern (Gotze), and while their may be more to that transfer than originally thought, but it does feel like the major clubs just cycle through players like dirty underwear while the rest of the world catches up. We certainly have some outliers, that seem to perform on the world stage with more of a controlled budget, but really with the money involved, it's really down to maybe a dozen teams in Europe that can compete internationally. By the same token every league is a feeder league then
Spike Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Smiley Culture said: It’s incredibly sad that any league is deemed a “feeder” but it’s the way Football has gone due to the advent of the Champions League. It was always the case. If it weren't, there really wouldn't be much movement between nations. It isn't something new thanks to the Champions League.
Spike Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: By the same token every league is a feeder league then The BundesLiga definitely isn't a feeder league, it is just shit outside of three or four clubs that somehow end up with all the best German players. It just so happens the best German players tend to be very fucking good. @Eco
Eco Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: By the same token every league is a feeder league then 43 minutes ago, Spike said: The BundesLiga definitely isn't a feeder league, it is just shit outside of three or four clubs that somehow end up with all the best German players. It just so happens the best German players tend to be very fucking good. @Eco Fair enough, I was just reading through this and thought of Gotez, but you're likely right DDW, every league is a feeder is you use my thought process.
Devil-Dick Willie Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Eco said: Fair enough, I was just reading through this and thought of Gotez, but you're likely right DDW, every league is a feeder is you use my thought process. Never listen to the "Boyhood club" Bullshit. Apparently everyone had Dortmund as their boyhood club, Sahin, Gotze, Tommy. Where are they now?
Mpache Posted June 16, 2020 Author Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Spike said: It was always the case. If it weren't, there really wouldn't be much movement between nations. It isn't something new thanks to the Champions League. Not entirely sure I agree with this. Before the Bosman ruling in the 1990's(and the creation of the EU) there was perfect balance and if you were a good nation at football, chances are you had good clubs too. Malmo reached the Champions League final. Fucking Malmo. The EU was formed in 1993 years in the making but it wasn't until the Bosman lawsuit that UEFA allowed free movement between nations in football.
Guest Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Inti Brian said: Not entirely sure I agree with this. Before the Bosman ruling in the 1990's(and the creation of the EU) there was perfect balance and if you were a good nation at football, chances are you had good clubs too. Malmo reached the Champions League final. Fucking Malmo. The EU was formed in 1993 years in the making but it wasn't until the Bosman lawsuit that UEFA allowed free movement between nations in football. There were still stronger leagues. The English league was strong when England were shit. But it wasn't like it was now. The champions League had played a big part in making the strong leagues stronger and the weak leagues weaker.
Spike Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Inti Brian said: Not entirely sure I agree with this. Before the Bosman ruling in the 1990's(and the creation of the EU) there was perfect balance and if you were a good nation at football, chances are you had good clubs too. Malmo reached the Champions League final. Fucking Malmo. The EU was formed in 1993 years in the making but it wasn't until the Bosman lawsuit that UEFA allowed free movement between nations in football. There would be no incentive for players from South America to travel to Europe in that case. Why would the three Swedish players of AC MIlan leave Sweden?
Mpache Posted June 16, 2020 Author Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, Spike said: There would be no incentive for players from South America to travel to Europe in that case. Why would the three Swedish players of AC MIlan leave Sweden? Well, South American football was the best back then for a reason. It's true a lot of South Americans went to Europe. Peru during our golden generation had a lot of players go to clubs like Porto, Barcelona, Cagliari, Milan, etc. Even as far back as the 1960's. For the most part though, it wasn't until the 1980's where it became more common practice. Ozzie Ardiles was the first example that changed things a lot. And as for Europe, since the EU wasn't a thing, the limit was very strict. Obviously the biggest footballing nations were still the best but you'd get CL winners like Ajax, PSV, Steaua, etc. Teams you'd not expect to see win the tournament today/
Spike Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, Inti Brian said: Well, South American football was the best back then for a reason. It's true a lot of South Americans went to Europe. Peru during our golden generation had a lot of players go to clubs like Porto, Barcelona, Cagliari, Milan, etc. Even as far back as the 1960's. For the most part though, it wasn't until the 1980's where it became more common practice. Ozzie Ardiles was the first example that changed things a lot. And as for Europe, since the EU wasn't a thing, the limit was very strict. Obviously the biggest footballing nations were still the best but you'd get CL winners like Ajax, PSV, Steaua, etc. Teams you'd not expect to see win the tournament today/ If it was the best they wouldn't leave.
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