Cicero Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 If given the choice between De Jong or Raphinha I'd prefer the former. Think our midfield is in drastic need of an upgrade on Jorginho. Assuming that was part of the negotiations between Laporta and Boehly.
Dave Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Well if Chelsea get Frenkie I guess the only logical thing to do is let Conor Gallagher to return to an environment he's comfortable in.
Happy Blue Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 United going to pay De Jong the wages Barca owe him by the sounds of it ..he doesn’t want to join united, Barca forcing him out so think he's going to be another flop at old Trafford
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted July 14, 2022 Author Subscriber Posted July 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: United going to pay De Jong the wages Barca owe him by the sounds of it ..he doesn’t want to join united, Barca forcing him out so think he's going to be another big hit at old Trafford Up yours
DeadLinesman Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Happy Blue said: United going to pay De Jong the wages Barca owe him by the sounds of it ..he doesn’t want to join united, Barca forcing him out so think he's going to be another flop at old Trafford United haven’t budged on the payments at all. Barsa have basically told him he’s going to go.
Cicero Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 What's the situation on this? Have United agreed to pay the 17m in deferred wages that are owed to De Jong? Barcelona really are the biggest bunch of fuckwits about at the moment. 2020 - "Frankie, we need you to take a wage cut but we will pay you back in the future." 2022 - "Frankie, we need you to leave so we can finance our other deals but we can't pay you the deferred wages we still owe you.
DeadLinesman Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, Cicero said: What's the situation on this? Have United agreed to pay the 17m in deferred wages that are owed to De Jong? Barcelona really are the biggest bunch of fuckwits about at the moment. 2020 - "Frankie, we need you to take a wage cut but we will pay you back in the future." 2022 - "Frankie, we need you to leave so we can finance our other deals but we can't pay you the deferred wages we still owe you. From what I’ve read and listened to via podcasts, we’ve not budged on the wage deferral money (because we’d be fucking mugs). Barsa have offered around £3million and De Jong wants £10million at least. Maybe we pay him extra in the contract, who know. Maybe it’s bonus related. I think the transfer does happen though. The Express has been relentless saying De Jong won’t agree personal terms. You’re telling me he hasn’t been sounded out in the background? United are fucking terrible at transfers, but that bad?
Bluewolf Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 As I understand it they owe him 17Mill which is why he is refusing to leave, but by not leaving Barca can't bring in the new players like Raphinha so something has to give somewhere... If Barca want him out to do other business then they are going to have to cough up the moolah..
Happy Blue Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, DeadLinesman said: United haven’t budged on the payments at all. Barsa have basically told him he’s going to go. I read something different this morning. who's going to pay it then?
DeadLinesman Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: I read something different this morning. who's going to pay it then? Well we all know you’d have paid it via his cleaners wife’s brothers dog sitter
Lucas Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 Absolute stalemate this one. You wonder just how much longer Man Utd should persevere on this one, particularly as the player really doesn't seem willing to go along with it.
OrangeKhrush Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 2 months later and man United are still in the same place
Happy Blue Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Lucas said: Absolute stalemate this one. You wonder just how much longer Man Utd should persevere on this one, particularly as the player really doesn't seem willing to go along with it. It's clear he doesn't want to join united, don't know why they are trying to sign a player that has no interest in signing for them ..even if Barca manage to force him out he's not going to be happy is he
Redcanuck Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 I think it's more that de Jong wants to stay in Barcelona , not that he doesn't want to come to United. Barcelona are his dream club, he's just bought a new house there, his wife is happy there, why change sunny Barcelona for rainy Manchester. This situation is complicated as all hell, Barcelona keep buying players 4 or 5 now that they can't register unless they seriously reduce their wage bill. It's not just de Jong they have to move on its 4 or 5 other squad players as well. Then there's de Jong's contract which still has 2 or 3 years to run. Did de Jong deffer salary or restruct his contract? I wonder if Barcelona feel the contract was restructured and the salary is top heavy in the last two years, meaning he only gets the money if he completes the whole contract and they don't owe him any deffered wages? Looks like both de Jong and Barcelona are both playing chicken to see who blinks first. Will de Jong take a massive pay cut to play for his dream club and forget about the £17m in deferred wages or will Barcelona cave at the last minute and pay de Jong a sizable portion of his deferred wages because they can't register Lewandowski or Raphinha? This could very well drag on past the start of the season, I hope not, but who knows.
Cicero Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Fabrizio Romano is claiming Chelsea will not make any offers unless the player himself wishes to leave Barcelona vs being forced out.
Happy Blue Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Cicero said: Fabrizio Romano is claiming Chelsea will not make any offers unless the player himself wishes to leave Barcelona vs being forced out. That's the right approach. Pep's a big fan so maybe he knows De Jong doesn't want to leave Barca
Cicero Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: That's the right approach. Pep's a big fan so maybe he knows De Jong doesn't want to leave Barca Heard they played him at CB last night in their friendly. Barca really are something.
Happy Blue Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Heard they played him at CB last night in their friendly. Barca really are something. Got to feel sorry for the kid being forced out and up routing his family too to move again, it's not just he's job, it's he's whole life being turned upside down when they are all settled where they are
Cicero Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 11:09, Cicero said: Fabrizio Romano is claiming Chelsea will not make any offers unless the player himself wishes to leave Barcelona vs being forced out. The Athletic claiming Tuchel wants the player. De Jong, if willing to move, would prefer a move to Chelsea than United and Boehly may use Alonso + Azpilicueta to lower De Jong's value.
Redcanuck Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Cicero said: The Athletic claiming Tuchel wants the player. De Jong, if willing to move, would prefer a move to Chelsea than United and Boehly may use Alonso + Azpilicueta to lower De Jong's value. I am not sure the rumours of Chelsea being interested are real. They could be but I don't think so. They are all coming from one source, the Spanish newspaper Sport, which is just a mouthpiece for Barcelona and Real. Other sources just pick up and pass on the original story from Sport. Barcelona are trying to get United to increase their bid or agree to pay De Jong's deferred salary. Ten Hag has supposed to have been in contact with De Jong and been assured that if he leaves Barcelona, which he really doesn't want to, he will come to United. I can't see United sticking with this so long if De Jong had indicated he dosent want to come to United or that he wanted to go somewhere else if he was to leave Barcelona.
DeadLinesman Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Redcanuck said: I am not sure the rumours of Chelsea being interested are real. They could be but I don't think so. They are all coming from one source, the Spanish newspaper Sport, which is just a mouthpiece for Barcelona and Real. Other sources just pick up and pass on the original story from Sport. Barcelona are trying to get United to increase their bid or agree to pay De Jong's deferred salary. Ten Hag has supposed to have been in contact with De Jong and been assured that if he leaves Barcelona, which he really doesn't want to, he will come to United. I can't see United sticking with this so long if De Jong had indicated he dosent want to come to United or that he wanted to go somewhere else if he was to leave Barcelona. Ornstein claiming it as well this morning. Nice 12 weeks pissed down the drain. Same shit, different day. Should have moved on weeks ago.
Bluewolf Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: Ornstein claiming it as well this morning. Nice 12 weeks pissed down the drain. Same shit, different day. Should have moved on weeks ago. It's always a concern when your club is chasing the whole time and then eventually after the long haul either gets their reluctant man or worse the whole thing is just one big massive waste of time.. Even sadder if you finally get him because it won't be because it was something he desired and saw as a challenge, it would be because he was backed into a corner and had his hand forced and nobody wants someone playing for them if their heart is not in it..
Cicero Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 Think this is where both Azpilicueta and Alonso come in.
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted August 3, 2022 Author Subscriber Posted August 3, 2022 I gave up with that guy a few weeks back, if he does not fancy coming to United then he can fuck off, let someone else have him, and blood some of our youth who are dying to show what they are worth for wearing the United shirt.
Cicero Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, CaaC (John) said: I gave up with that guy a few weeks back, if he does not fancy coming to United then he can fuck off, let someone else have him, and blood some of our youth who are dying to show what they are worth for wearing the United shirt. I don't think having youth learning off of Fred or McTominay is the best idea.
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